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[copacetic]

Unbuffed my eHP is 523k eHP, with Tough as Nails, it goes to 605k eHP and I'm pretty happy with my resistances. Here's the build I'm probably going to try out this evening and see how it goes.

http://d3up.com/b/709936/norman

WTF. And I can't even get past 300K.

 

[synack]

WTF. And I can't even get past 300K.

It's all about the Resist All and +Armour Affixes because they stack so nicely every time, you gain +1Vit or +1% Life. For instance, if you have 0 Resist all and you gain +100 Vit, you're gaining 3500 HP for a total of 3500 eHP gain. But lets say you have 650 Resist all (which is in the region of 65% dmg negate, give or take 2-3%) and you gain +100 Vit for a gain of 3500 HP and 5775 eHP. Resist all and Armour are cumulative on every point of base HP you gain, which means it is worth so much more as you gain more and more levels, since you're gaining +vit with each level. If you don't have 600-650 base Resist all (unbuffed) on your barb, with at 35k-45k base HP on your barb, then you're doing it wrong.

Armour comes Naturally to a Barb, I've never made much of an effort to get it, you'll find it on most decent barb pieces and you get it naturally with your STR bonuses which you want to get for DPS increases anyways. So when you're searching for equipment, you should really be looking for +Resist all over high +vit, assuming you're already at about a 40k base HP range.

 

[synack]

WTF. And I can't even get past 300K.

Bah, you're a WD, ignore me.

Having said that, if the WD is anything like the Wizard, you base HP seems very high.

You should really play around in d3up, specially with the sideboard "EHP Gains by Stat". It's a great way that you can test which stats you want to be prioritizing when looking at a piece of gear. For instance, you might be looking at two pieces where one gives you +90 Armour, while the other one gives you a +10 Resist all boost. Which one is better? In this case, the +90 Armour is better, probably because you're armour isn't at the point of diminishing returns that your resist all is at.

Not to mention +Armour is probably easier and cheaper to get than +Resist All on WD equipment, so it's probably a good place to start when looking to get more eHP for your WD.

Remember that you don't have to try as hard as Barbs do to get Resist All, since every 10 Points of Int, give you +1 Resist All, so from your stats alone, your already getting 250~ points of Resist all before you every start getting the bonuses from your equipment. So for WD/Wiz, we don't have to try as hard to get Resist All bonuses on high Int pieces of equipment and should look for +Armour pieces. Remember you still want a base 600-650 Resist all, so don't shy away from Resist all pieces completely, but keep in mind that boosting your Int, boosts your Resist All, so if you're struggling to find an extra 10-20 points, you can just increase your Int by 100-200 points.

 

[werries2]

It's all about the Resist All and +Armour Affixes because they stack so nicely every time, you gain +1Vit or +1% Life. For instance, if you have 0 Resist all and you gain +100 Vit, you're gaining 3500 HP for a total of 3500 eHP gain. But lets say you have 650 Resist all (which is in the region of 65% dmg negate, give or take 2-3%) and you gain +100 Vit for a gain of 3500 HP and 5775 eHP. Resist all and Armour are cumulative on every point of base HP you gain, which means it is worth so much more as you gain more and more levels, since you're gaining +vit with each level. If you don't have 600-650 base Resist all (unbuffed) on your barb, with at 35k-45k base HP on your barb, then you're doing it wrong.

Armour comes Naturally to a Barb, I've never made much of an effort to get it, you'll find it on most decent barb pieces and you get it naturally with your STR bonuses which you want to get for DPS increases anyways. So when you're searching for equipment, you should really be looking for +Resist all over high +vit, assuming you're already at about a 40k base HP range.

Getting those resistances and maintaining above 150k DPS is the costly part.

 

[synack]

Getting those resistances and maintaining above 150k DPS is the costly part.

True, but from where I am now, it's just a case of increasing the crit dmg as everything else is where it should be stat wise imho.

So I need to start looking at slight better rings and amulets. If I can get a increase of 100% I'll go over 100k unbuffed, which I think is pretty decent for plvl 12. This means I need to get 50% on my Amulet and Ring, which should be do able soonish as my budget seems to be getting better daily.

 

[techead]

African_Tech has one setup. PM him for the deets...

cool man, will do

 

[copacetic]

It's all about the Resist All and +Armour Affixes because they stack so nicely every time, you gain +1Vit or +1% Life. For instance, if you have 0 Resist all and you gain +100 Vit, you're gaining 3500 HP for a total of 3500 eHP gain. But lets say you have 650 Resist all (which is in the region of 65% dmg negate, give or take 2-3%) and you gain +100 Vit for a gain of 3500 HP and 5775 eHP. Resist all and Armour are cumulative on every point of base HP you gain, which means it is worth so much more as you gain more and more levels, since you're gaining +vit with each level. If you don't have 600-650 base Resist all (unbuffed) on your barb, with at 35k-45k base HP on your barb, then you're doing it wrong.

Armour comes Naturally to a Barb, I've never made much of an effort to get it, you'll find it on most decent barb pieces and you get it naturally with your STR bonuses which you want to get for DPS increases anyways. So when you're searching for equipment, you should really be looking for +Resist all over high +vit, assuming you're already at about a 40k base HP range.

Yeah, my armour is only at 3,5K, and my resists are in the region of 650 and up, although they fluctuate up to a thousand depending on Soul Harvest, and one of my passives activating.

I think some % HP gear would be quite helpful - I'd love to get (somehow, eventually), another 15K HP, on top of the 45 I have now.

Then again, my unbuffed DPS is nigh on 150K, and with soul harvest and Gruesome Feast, I think it's in the 300K range.

Plus, this is all with a Stone of Jordan, so that's another 30% to elites and bosses, etc.

*Edit*

Yeah, sorry, just totally ignored the fact you thought I was a barb.

 

[werries2]

@ Synack
Don't forget to also look for +dmg on the rings and amu.
My problem with all the dps boosts I am looking for on those slots is that they usually lack the defensive stats like AR

 

[moondoggie86]

So been tinkering with my 3rd passive slot. Tonight I was running Nerves of Steel and it made the barb quite a bit tankier. So I was plying in d3up after my session and it seems the 25% increase from Tough as Nails is actually better with my setup (it may be better with a hight VIT/Life% setup, but I think 25% might be better usually) and boosts me to over 600k ehp unbuffed, 760k buffer with my war cry.

I think I might try out Brawler as you're pretty much always surrounded my mods, so I should be able to get a 30% increase in DPS most of the time, which boosts me to 106k dps / 667k ehp fully buffed. Gonna give that a try out this weekend.

As a side note, I'm kinda of happy where my resistances are, as the lowest is at 637.8 unbuffed, but shoots up to 765.48 buffed. So from here I'm pretty much going to be looking at increasing my DPS.

Thanks to moondoggie for lending me that sick Skorn, please remember to get it back from me. Also thanks to the peeps for runs tonight, got another 3 plevels and closing on my wizard now.

lol, you can keep the Skorn. Glad it's helping

 

[synack]

@ Synack
Don't forget to also look for +dmg on the rings and amu.
My problem with all the dps boosts I am looking for on those slots is that they usually lack the defensive stats like AR

Rather look for high STR rings then, the increase in STR will give you extra armour at 1 armour point per 1 point of STR. So gaining +100 STR is the same as gaining +100 Armour, but with the added benefit of gaining you DPS (I'm pretty sure you're a barb).

 

[synack]

lol, you can keep the Skorn. Glad it's helping

Na dude, I have to give it back eventually, it's like worth quite a bit IIRC. I think I want to go back to dual wield, but will only do it once I can afford two decent weapons that aren't Echo'ing Fury, then I'll give it back, but I'm not keeping it indefinitely, it's too expensive. I don't mind taking average gear off ppl as a noobie, but this piece is worth quite a few bob and I don't feel too good about it.

But really appreciate the offer.

 

[Agent_Smith]

Na dude, I have to give it back eventually, it's like worth quite a bit IIRC. I think I want to go back to dual wield, but will only do it once I can afford two decent weapons that aren't Echo'ing Fury, then I'll give it back, but I'm not keeping it indefinitely, it's too expensive. I don't mind taking average gear off ppl as a noobie, but this piece is worth quite a few bob and I don't feel too good about it.

But really appreciate the offer.

Have you tried The Butcher's sickle? I had a fairly decent one a while ago and with a crit gem in it, was doing some pretty cool damage. It's also got a quality skill that has a chance to pull guys towards you. Might be a good stop-gap instead of the Fury until you can get two decent 1H weapons...

 

[copacetic]

Na dude, I have to give it back eventually, it's like worth quite a bit IIRC. I think I want to go back to dual wield, but will only do it once I can afford two decent weapons that aren't Echo'ing Fury, then I'll give it back, but I'm not keeping it indefinitely, it's too expensive. I don't mind taking average gear off ppl as a noobie, but this piece is worth quite a few bob and I don't feel too good about it.

But really appreciate the offer.

Nah, that Skorn is worth virtually nothing, on account of the low damage and crit. Which is no offense to whoever lent it to you, there's nothing wrong with it at all - It's just the reality of the economy.

 

[xavier007]

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[synack]

Nah, that Skorn is worth virtually nothing, on account of the low damage and crit. Which is no offense to whoever lent it to you, there's nothing wrong with it at all - It's just the reality of the economy.

I did a search for a Skorn with the same 6% life steal, a socket and 150% Crit dmg and the least it was going for (and I stand to be corrected here) was 25-50mil. This may seem a little to some, but it's currently 25-50mil more than I can afford.

 

[synack]

Have you tried The Butcher's sickle? I had a fairly decent one a while ago and with a crit gem in it, was doing some pretty cool damage. It's also got a quality skill that has a chance to pull guys towards you. Might be a good stop-gap instead of the Fury until you can get two decent 1H weapons...

I looked into it and I am considering one, I just need another decent weapon. I'm keeping my eye on the AH and as soon as something pops up that I like the look of and can afford, I'm gonna nab it. I might get lucky with loot too, so who knows.

 

[AfricanTech]

Na dude, I have to give it back eventually, it's like worth quite a bit IIRC. I think I want to go back to dual wield, but will only do it once I can afford two decent weapons that aren't Echo'ing Fury, then I'll give it back, but I'm not keeping it indefinitely, it's too expensive. I don't mind taking average gear off ppl as a noobie, but this piece is worth quite a few bob and I don't feel too good about it.

But really appreciate the offer.

LOL - gift horses and all that.

As the man said, it's yours to do with what you will.

I only really got started when Sinbad (I think it was Sinbad) gave me a Nats Cloak - that motivated me immensely - and I eventually passed it on to someone else when he didn't want it back.

Also, I've found that once you upgrade your toon, that really good equipment suddenly has no value to you but is immensely valuable to someone else.

So enjoy.

 

[AfricanTech]

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[copacetic]

I did a search for a Skorn with the same 6% life steal, a socket and 150% Crit dmg and the least it was going for (and I stand to be corrected here) was 25-50mil. This may seem a little to some, but it's currently 25-50mil more than I can afford.

What things sell for, and what idiots list items for, are two very different kettles of fish, I can assure you.

 

[copacetic]

You can find a similar Skorn with around 300 strength instead (HUGE damage boost), for about 6-8 million.

So if you reckon you can get 20 million for your one, do it, and buy a strength Skorn instead.