Official Liverpool FC Supporters Thread II

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That's the scary thing, the way the team was closing down, passing and defending yesterday was much much better than our starting 11. I really don't know what is happening where that is concerned.

@AfricanTech where are you dude?
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Yep, and it does make one wonder what the cause of the poor performances has been but in the end its probably a bunch of reasons as opposed to one or two. For a start I just want the intensity and the hunger and desire to be reflective in our play, whether its with or without the ball.
 
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That's the scary thing, the way the team was closing down, passing and defending yesterday was much much better than our starting 11. I really don't know what is happening where that is concerned.

@AfricanTech where are you dude?
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I think to an extent the usual suspects nerd to know they are replaceable and that might increase the effort they Putin?
 
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smokey said:
Welp, it's a good thing you didn't. Now you can enjoy your team where they belong :)
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Better then having a Russian so far up your arse that......actually it is pointless trying to attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you
 
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Better then having a Russian so far up your arse that......actually it is pointless trying to attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you
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Why? I'm very reasonable! Having a sugar daddy is awesome. It's not like the Americans have been doing a much better job of running a football club than a Russian and the Arabs.
 
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smokey said:
Why? I'm very reasonable! Having a sugar daddy is awesome. It's not like the Americans have been doing a much better job of running a football club than a Russian and the Arabs.
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"I hate Liverpool and their supporters" is not a statement that has any amount of reasonable about it
 
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That's the scary thing, the way the team was closing down, passing and defending yesterday was much much better than our starting 11. I really don't know what is happening where that is concerned.

@AfricanTech where are you dude?
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Was offsite this morning.

@F1 and curbs, I agree with you guys - not playing the 'first team' would have been a salutary lesson to them.

I can respect Ian Ladyman's emotional viewpoint, however, the reality is that our first team needed a bloody good kick in the arse - they've been playing as if their positions are untouchable - the reality is that they needed to see that the people who played last night can hold their own and they'd better pull up their socks. With all BR's nonsense when speaking about what other teams should have achieved given what they spent or 'coaching defense' is easy, people forget that he has been a pretty good 'man manager' who brought out the best in Suarez (amongst others).

Fully support what he did last night and he may have inadvertently discovered the seed of a defensive combination that works. He also showed that he can be a hardnosed pragmatist when it is needed. (something we consistently criticised him for towards the end of last season)

After the shocking run we've had, he simply had to do something different - as Einstein said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

@smokey - yeah, I think you need to readjust your lenses - except for a specific individual, 'pool supporters here on MyBB don't deserve that broad brush that you're waving around.

I for one do not respond to the trolls any longer in the hope that they will simply get bored and wander off.
 
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Was offsite this morning.

@F1 and curbs, I agree with you guys - not playing the 'first team' would have been a salutary lesson to them.

I can respect Ian Ladyman's emotional viewpoint, however, the reality is that our first team needed a bloody good kick in the arse - they've been playing as if their positions are untouchable - the reality is that they needed to see that the people who played last night can hold their own and they'd better pull up their socks. With all BR's nonsense when speaking about what other teams should have achieved given what they spent or 'coaching defense' is easy, people forget that he has been a pretty good 'man manager' who brought out the best in Suarez (amongst others).

Fully support what he did last night and he may have inadvertently discovered the seed of a defensive combination that works. He also showed that he can be a hardnosed pragmatist when it is needed. (something we consistently criticised him for towards the end of last season)

After the shocking run we've had, he simply had to do something different - as Einstein said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

@smokey - yeah, I think you need to readjust your lenses - except for a specific individual, 'pool supporters here on MyBB don't deserve that broad brush that you're waving around.

I for one do not respond to the trolls any longer in the hope that they will simply get bored and wander off.
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And he's back:D

The big question now is....who to start against Chelsea?

I was very impressed with Markovic by the way. Not the finished product, but definitely has it in him..
 
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I agree he should not be making it sound like it was a tactical plan. Cause it wasn't. He was resting players for the Chelsea clash. Period. Having said that, I still don't see what was so wrong with what he did. Some may agree, some may not. At the end of the day, he is the manager....
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What he did wasn't wrong. Painting it as something other than what it really was, is wrong.
 
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And he's back:D

The big question now is....who to start against Chelsea?

I was very impressed with Markovic by the way. Not the finished product, but definitely has it in him..
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:D

Commented last night on Marko - he still got robbed a bit too easily though - made a few nice runs but nowhere near deep enough.
 
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Which is fair, but begs the question of whether effectively conceding defeat in the Champions League to focus on qualifying for the Champions League makes sense.
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I reckon that if we had started with our 'usual team and plan', Real would have thumped us.......again.

We played them at home, with huge crowd support and passion and it worked.........for the first 20 minutes. Then the bubble popped and 600 vs 180 in match xp + poor tactics, weak execution, horrendous defense, (I can add more but damn, I can only do so much self flagellation :D ) resulted in 3 down by halftime and Real effectively making a mockery of us on the field in the 2nd half.

If that had happened last night I would have been gutted.

With respect to conceding defeat, our fate is in our hands - if we beat Basel and Ludo (and there is no reason for Real not to beat them - Real are busy setting an all time record in the CL) then we may well challenge in the next round.

And ja, recognising that we do not have the squad (at this point) to win the CL is not being defeatist - it's called being a realist.

Last season, we aimed for the #4 spot in the League and got to #2, so who knows...

Edit: To answer your question, of course it does - live to fight another day (another season) - if we don't make at least 4th no CL next year - no CL next year means :( fans and reduced funds.
 
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AfricanTech said:
I reckon that if we had started with our 'usual team and plan', Real would have thumped us.......again.

We played them at home, with huge crowd support and passion and it worked.........for the first 20 minutes. Then the bubble popped and 600 vs 180 in match xp + poor tactics, weak execution, horrendous defense, (I can add more but damn, I can only do so much self flagellation :D ) resulted in 3 down by halftime and Real effectively making a mockery of us on the field in the 2nd half.

If that had happened last night I would have been gutted.

With respect to conceding defeat, our fate is in our hands - if we beat Basel and Ludo (and there is no reason for Real not to beat them - Real are busy setting an all time record in the CL) then we may well challenge in the next round.

And ja, recognising that we do not have the squad (at this point) to win the CL is not being defeatist - it's called being a realist.

Last season, we aimed for the #4 spot in the League and got to #2, so who knows...

Edit: To answer your question, of course it does - live to fight another day (another season) - if we don't make at least 4th no CL next year - no CL next year means :( fans and reduced funds.
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Honestly, I applaud his decision to change things up. Liverpool need it. But, his comments made no sense as to why.

Liverpool do, by and large, have their destiny in their own hands regarding qualification. But it does also rely on Real beating your opponents, too. Still risky.

I get that he needs to prioritise remaining within the reaches of a CL spot over current CL ambitions- but that's why this weekend's result is important.
 
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Maverick Jester said:
Honestly, I applaud his decision to change things up. Liverpool need it. But, his comments made no sense as to why.

Liverpool do, by and large, have their destiny in their own hands regarding qualification. But it does also rely on Real beating your opponents, too. Still risky.

I get that he needs to prioritise remaining within the reaches of a CL spot over current CL ambitions- but that's why this weekend's result is important.
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Watch...of we beat Chelsea...then it will be said that BR is a genius...that;s how the world of football works...
 
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