Old man applauded by social media users for fighting off would be criminals

[LCBXX]

Not currently but I would get one in certain situations.

If I replay all the bad situations back with me being armed they don't all turn out great.
Guns don't make you bullet proof.

The process of getting certified competent includes training which makes you aware of additional measures to take so that you never have to use your gun.

Agreed, many people are victims simply because they are naive, and end up putting themselves into situations where, armed or not, they are at a higher risk of being attacked.

 

[Kola-CT]

They give another option, but there are no guarantees either way.

Not currently but I would get one in certain situations.

If I replay all the bad situations back with me being armed they don't all turn out great.
Guns don't make you bullet proof.

Indeed it does not, but it provides options you do not have otherwise.

With that comes a lot of added responsibility and need for awareness.

And it still does not come with any guarantees on outcome if SHTF.

 

[LCBXX]

They give another option, but there are no guarantees either way.


Indeed it does not, but it provides options you do not have otherwise.

With that comes a lot of added responsibility and need for awareness.

And it still does not come with any guarantees on outcome if SHTF.

The point of legally carrying a firearm is to have it serve as a crime-deterrent

If criminals and vagrants know that there is even a 30% chance that their target, or people around their target, are armed, they'll be a lot less brazen in their criminal conduct.

"An armed society is a polite society".

 

[mojoman]

Gun logic makes perfect sense here....

when is that last time you took that competency test then ?

When did you last take your drivers test?
Im not sure what you are getting at?

 

[Kola-CT]

The point of legally carrying a firearm is to have it serve as a crime-deterrent

If criminals and vagrants know that there is even a 30% chance that their target, or people around their target, are armed, they'll be a lot less brazen in their criminal conduct.

"An armed society is a polite society".

In South Africa I doubt that at this stage, I think the lack of consequence and the number of criminals who seem to think they are bulletproof is too high, and in any event we will never reach even close to that percentage of legally armed people here.

Personally I certainly do not want anyone to know I am armed when I am out and about.

Edit: In this specific case, white guy possibly in his 50s in a Cruiser in a small town - more than 30% chance a person like that might be armed.

 

[TheChamp]

North West man captured on video fighting back against criminals refuses to open case: police

Police in the North West say they are disappointed that a man caught on camera fighting back against criminals is refusing to open a case.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[LCBXX]

In South Africa I doubt that at this stage, I think the lack of consequence and the number of criminals who seem to think they are bulletproof is too high, and in any event we will never reach even close to that percentage of legally armed people here.

Personally I certainly do not want anyone to know I am armed when I am out and about.

It's because the criminals are armed and South Africans have been conditioned to accept victimhood as being virtuous.

That, and the demonising of private gun ownership, together with making the process of legally acquiring a firearm laborious, by both the ANC Government and anti-gun lobbyists.

I find it interesting that journalist always report when a stolen/illegal firearm was used in a crime, but never on what ammunition was used by the criminal.
I'd put my cock on the block and state that, if journalists know what to look for, most of the casings on the crime scene will be from SAPS/SANDF issued ammunition.

 

[R13...]

North West man captured on video fighting back against criminals refuses to open case: police

Police in the North West say they are disappointed that a man caught on camera fighting back against criminals is refusing to open a case.

www.timeslive.co.za

Can't say I don't see his PoV. I doubt the police are going to do anything more than just do the paperwork and file the thing away uninvestigated. They do that with murder, why would they bother with a relatively petty crime.

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

South Africans have been conditioned to accept victimhood

That is exactly why the Oom is still walking the streets today. He met them with aggression. That perp that closed the door thought twice after he was nearly tagged and then ran away. Why, because he wasn't prepared for the Oom to fight back. Meet the the aggression with aggression and the perps no longer have the upper hand, you have leveled if not tilted the playing field into your favor.

 

[Kola-CT]

It's because the criminals are armed and South Africans have been conditioned to accept victimhood as being virtuous.

That, and the demonising of private gun ownership, together with making the process of legally acquiring a firearm laborious, by both the ANC Government and anti-gun lobbyists.

I find it interesting that journalist always report when a stolen/illegal firearm was used in a crime, but never on what ammunition was used by the criminal.
I'd put my cock on the block and state that, if journalists know what to look for, most of the casings on the crime scene will be from SAPS/SANDF issued ammunition.

Yes, and agree with all of this, but we are where we are and that is not going to change, it will probably get much worse.

All we can do as individuals is to make sure we are prepared to be our own first responders, and also be prepared to stand together when SHTF like it did in KZN last year.

I am at the point where, when others choose to be victims, I let them be.
It is not nice, but I am not going to risk my life or livelihood and the future of my family for someone not prepared to look after themselves - if they want a chance to win the lotto, they need to buy a ticket.

 

[Craig_]

Fokken etters. Klomp slapgatte. Like a pack of hyenas then running away tail tuck in the as$.

Pity the ou toppie wasn't armed, could've cleaned up the gene pool a bit.

 

[Gyre]

The Woke are also the first bunch to scream what a poor victim of society and oppression the criminals are

Explain how that is "being woke"? What background do you think the criminals had, out of curiosity?

Whichever side had a gun in that video would have had a massive advantage, imagine if it was the criminals ...

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Training!!

Carrying a knife means nothing if you have no experience in how to use it.

As to what knife = the one you are proficient with.

My personal EDC:

Look at that hand and nails...never seen a hard day's work in it's life.

Is that knife for sharpening your eyebrow pencil?

 

[mojoman]

Yes, and agree with all of this, but we are where we are and that is not going to change, it will probably get much worse.

All we can do as individuals is to make sure we are prepared to be our own first responders, and also be prepared to stand together when SHTF like it did in KZN last year.

I am at the point where, when others choose to be victims, I let them be.
It is not nice, but I am not going to risk my life or livelihood and the future of my family for someone not prepared to look after themselves - if they want a chance to win the lotto, they need to buy a ticket.

Same...They are not our problem.

 

[TheChamp]

Can't say I don't see his PoV. I doubt the police are going to do anything more than just do the paperwork and file the thing away uninvestigated. They do that with murder, why would they bother with a relatively petty crime.

I also see it but I also understand why he could be assisting the criminals to get away with it, if the cops went and found him surely he wouldn't lose much by just opening a case?

I would understand if he had to drive that monster to the police station, but if the cops come to you, just open the case.

 

[LCBXX]

Yes, and agree with all of this, but we are where we are and that is not going to change, it will probably get much worse.

All we can do as individuals is to make sure we are prepared to be our own first responders, and also be prepared to stand together when SHTF like it did in KZN last year.

I am at the point where, when others choose to be victims, I let them be.
It is not nice, but I am not going to risk my life or livelihood and the future of my family for someone not prepared to look after themselves - if they want a chance to win the lotto, they need to buy a ticket.

Which is why I'm advocating for individuals to get certified competent and buy firearms, and protect themselves and others by doing so.

There is no help coming from the ANC/DA/ActionSA/etc governments. All these politicians want is access to as much taxes as they can get though the democratic process.

 

[BeerIsNotGood...]

Don't enable criminals. Be responsible.

lol should go tell that to the police...

tsek

 

[Kola-CT]

Which is why I'm advocating for individuals to cert certified competent and buy firearms, and protect themselves and others by doing so.

There is no help coming from the ANC/DA/ActionSA/etc governments. All these politicians want is access to as much taxes as they can get though the democratic process.

Agree.

 

[Gyre]

Look at that hand an nails...never seen a hard day's work in it's life.

Is that knife for sharpening your eyebrow pencil?

Wow, body-shaming now

 

[HunterNW]

Wow, body-shaming now

I saw a pic here the other day where the okes fingerprints just jumped out in the pic. Fck, my finger prints are so worn the clock reader battles to detect them.