Once you go cloud, you never go without.

[CorrieDeBeer]

I'm just wondering if any other devs on this site has gotten into using the cloud as a developer tool? I have been trying to teach myself ruby on rails but after struggling two weeks to try and install it on my windows machine I had to give up.

Trying to install ROR on my windows machine broke my spirit and made me question if there is a God? But luckily the cloud was there ready to help. It really is swell

So I'm wondering what some of the other users here experience has been?

 

[_kabal_]

Just use vagrant and make your life a whole lot easier, especially for ruby.
Windows rocks as a gui, and has an okish CLI, while Linux is terrible as a GUI but has awesome CLI.

"vagrant up ssh" on Windows CLI and now you are suddenly in Linux. Awesome.


Not sure what this has to do with "the cloud" though.

 

[NullHypothesis]

I'm just wondering if any other devs on this site has gotten into using the cloud as a developer tool? I have been trying to teach myself ruby on rails but after struggling two weeks to try and install it on my windows machine I had to give up.

Trying to install ROR on my windows machine broke my spirit and made me question if there is a God? But luckily the cloud was there ready to help. It really is swell

So I'm wondering what some of the other users here experience has been?

Yes I use Cloud9 for Ruby development. Just focus on learning the language for now. Don't get too much stuck on any aspect besides learning the concept of programming. You at a very fragile stage, you either gonna give up or soldier on. Also, don't go on for hours on end, get regular rest, don't tire your brain out. Things will seem clearer in the morning. I personally favour Ruby over Python cos it suits my way of doing things.

 

[CorrieDeBeer]

Is cloud9 the standard because that is what was recommended for me as well?

 

[NullHypothesis]

Is cloud9 the standard because that is what was recommended for me as well?

I would not call it a "standard", next week someone else comes along and does a better job. But I like it, it is quick and easy, it gets the job done. The great thing about these "cloud" platforms is you can develop from any PC anywhere. Just remember Cloud9 is not a host it is a development environment. So it is just the tools you wanted to install on your PC. You still need to deploy to a place like Heroku or Engine Yard.

 

[_kabal_]

Oh cloud development environment. I personally would "never" give up my local environment and ide

 

[NullHypothesis]

Oh cloud development environment. I personally would "never" give up my local environment and ide

To each their own. But this guy is still learning early days, pointless to give up before he starts to learn let alone worry about an environment.

 

[_kabal_]

Sure definitely agree. Whatever makes it easier to get into the life, if that is what he wants.

My comment was more towards the topic subject. When you have decided this is the route/career to go, there is no debate between the cloud and "offline" environment.

 

[NullHypothesis]

Sure definitely agree. Whatever makes it easier to get into the life, if that is what he wants.

Exactly he hasn't even encountered "the dip" yet.

My comment was more towards the topic subject. When you have decided this is the route/career to go, there is no debate between the cloud and "offline" environment.

I don't work in a team so I cannot comment on that aspect. To me the difference is minimal. It feels just like I'm working locally and pushing the completed changes up. And I think that logic has to be separated for a beginner (he must not think he is already in the cloud that its OK to edit files directly). To me it’s just fitting to develop a web app in the browser. But I've worked locally and I see why people have an affinity for it, it’s a “different” feeling. Maybe it depends on the type of project also.

 

[_kabal_]

Power of the IDE is a big selling point for me. Once you go jetbrains you don't go back (this is with my Java, php,html, js hat on, I have done no ruby or RoR, so I am not sure of the tooling that is out there )

At the end of the day it's all comes down to what you are comfortable and productive in

 

[rward]

Once you go jetbrains you don't go back

Seconded!

I'm using Phpstorm, RubyMine and PyCharm and all 3 are awesome at what they do.
I've used notepad, vi, eclipse and netbeans (and others) before and Jetbrains kick them all out the park!

 

[deweyzeph]

I'm just wondering if any other devs on this site has gotten into using the cloud as a developer tool? I have been trying to teach myself ruby on rails but after struggling two weeks to try and install it on my windows machine I had to give up.

Trying to install ROR on my windows machine broke my spirit and made me question if there is a God? But luckily the cloud was there ready to help. It really is swell

So I'm wondering what some of the other users here experience has been?

What exactly do you mean by "the cloud"?

 

[NullHypothesis]

What exactly do you mean by "the cloud"?

Cloud development environment - the desktop IDE in the browser.
Here is a (bit biased) article to get you up to speed on the practice.

 

[Thor]

For php and html what would you recommend.

What is the best IDE? For web development?

 

[NullHypothesis]

For php and html what would you recommend.

What is the best IDE? For web development?

JetBrains is always highly recommended (it is even mentioned above in the thread). They have a PHP IDE called PhpStorm. JetBrains is not free though. But not too expensive ( it is an annual license / subscription based). All the big frameworks are supported.

 

[Thor]

JetBrains is always highly recommended (it is even mentioned above in the thread). They have a PHP IDE called PhpStorm. JetBrains is not free though. But not too expensive ( it is an annual license / subscription based). All the big frameworks are supported.

Question:

What can I do in a expensive IDE like phpstorm, that I cannot do in something free like say brackets.io

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

Question:

What can I do in a expensive IDE like phpstorm, that I cannot do in something free like say brackets.io

Download it and try it. I'm a big fan of Jetbrains IDEs.

 

[_kabal_]

Yes. Try it.

Seeing as I spend a **** load of my year in my ide, the money I pay for it is irrelevant.

Brackets is an editor. Webstorm, etc is an IDE. the awesome refactoring support alone makes it worthwhile

 

[NullHypothesis]

Question:

What can I do in a expensive IDE like phpstorm, that I cannot do in something free like say brackets.io

Well for starters you should know your text editors from your IDE's

But to answer your specific question. Testing, compilation, integration with other frameworks.

As for a JetBrains IDE vs another IDE. Lots of features, easy to configure, great user interface, multi platform, saves a lot of time.

And JetBrains is not expensive. Check the personal license out (after trying the 30 day trial).

 

[_kabal_]

I also like to do my Java and typescript in the same environment. No need to have to have different keybindings or have to configure them the same. everything is just identical. Context switching is huge, and I would rather minimize it.