[Opinion] Why do nations fail? And is SA in danger of failing?

[Gingerbeardman]

It's not a denial. The part I highlighted doesn't make sense to me. What does it mean? Would that not make US a failed state?

The state can force you to pay taxes. That is a form of violence. The state has laws which imprison you if you commit crimes, that is a form of violence, only we call it justice.

I don't think this standard passes any comment on whether or not the US is a failed state.

 

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

I don't care about the debate... He claimed to have the official definition...

Of course you don't care and never will. Just because you reside in a self-made shitehole you break a bone about what it is and what is not. Losers will always find excuses. Just like a cancer patient nearing end stage, South Africa is a mere shadow of what it was.#LiveWithIt

 

[ToxicBunny]

Of course you don't care and never will. Just because you reside in a self-made shitehole you break a bone about what it is and what is not. Losers will always find excuses. Just like a cancer patient nearing end stage, South Africa is a mere shadow of what it was.#LiveWithIt

Right.....

 

[Moto Guzzi]

Why do nations fail? And is SA in danger of failing? | Citypress

We must go beyond institutions and interrogate the role of human beings within them.

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In short, very short, if they attach to an opertunistic ideology that seems to bring in the moot in big ways, that is bound to fail in the future, their course is set.

The ballance between Reality, Honesty, Resources & Money, Population Growth, want to do real work for a living, are some simple reality stuff that in the end will force a change how long it will take will depend on the financial muscle of support, but a fairytale wave to ride on cannot last forever.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

That index seems way off, Venezuela is only at the warning stage, where South Africa has the same score as China and a better score than Russia and Israel.

Undoubtedly a little biased, but seems like pretty much anything on that index with a score of 100, hell even a score at the 90 mark, is a failed state.

Venezuela clocks in at just under 90, sounds about right. ZA having a better score than Russia or China speaks more to how certain people want them to be perceived than it says about us imo.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

It's not a denial. The part I highlighted doesn't make sense to me. What does it mean? Would that not make US a failed state?

It is a shortened version of "monopoly on legitimate use of force within its borders" i.e. only the state is allowed to use force within its own borders with it being accepted as necessary / legal etc

If a terrorist attack happens it is force within the state's borders, but it is not "legitimate" force. When violence happens on a daily basis without being prosecuted or stopped in any way, like when the mafia completely runs a city for example, or like in South Africa where entire neighborhoods get shot up by gangs on a daily basis while the police do sweet f-all ... that inaction or inability by the state to stop "illegitimate" violence means they no longer have a monopoly on violence.

Hence by the old, simplistic, definition we are already a failed state, our government is wholly unable or unwilling to stop illegitimate violence and have thereby given up their monopoly on violence.

The US, despite all its flaws, most definitely retains their monopoly on legitimate violence within their borders. Look at what happens when there's a terrorist attack? They wage unilateral war, that maintains their monopoly on violence.

A failed state would simply ignore it.

 

[krycor]

As far as I am aware from a business and investment pov, the country stops being a country when law and order stops being a thing or when avg people do as they please vs everything from taking law into own hands to on the roa.. oh wait, we long past that!

 

[Unhappy438]

You are reading it incorrectly. SA is in the warning stage, Venezuela is in the alert stage.

Light orange (Venezuela) is warning, red is alert.

 

[ponder]

Africa has a long love history with communist ideals, carry on.

 

[Spliffcat]

SA is down the shizhole. It's a failed state.

 

[Milano]

Light orange (Venezuela) is warning, red is alert.

You're right. Looks like the threshold to move to red could be 90 instead of 100 with Venezuela at 89.3.