Orthokeratology - LASIK alternative

brianj74

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You can play rugby with contacts. With water polo you lose a few lenses.
Got iol's 5 years ago and haven't looked back. Better than 20/20
 

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Yeah - don't see why you couldn't play rugby with soft lenses in.

I lost a few while swimming but it wasn't the end of the world.

My first every contacts were hard contacts - they were uncomfortable and cost a fortune - back in mid 90's it was +-R500 for 1.
 

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Thanks for the responses everyone.

I think with all optical correction techniques , there is always going to be many success stories and many horror stories .

I think I'm going to give it a try though.

I haven't been able to find too many place in JHB that actually practice Ortho-K , but a place I did find was The Optical Centre in Sandton . Regarding the cost , this is the response I got :
The first consultation should be between R500 and R700 depending on which tests will be performed. You will receive your first trial lenses on that day and will need a follow up appointment for the next morning. The lenses will only be charged for once a final lens selection has been made, lenses vary between R1000 and R2000 per lens.
 

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I wore contacts for many years, and eventually switched to glasses as I got tired of the hassle of contacts. In 2008 I had LASIK surgery and it is amazing. My eyesight was about 97% 2 years ago when I renewed my drivers license and can see everything clearly. Just the freedom of not having to worry about glasses or lenses made it worth it for me, although it was quite expensive. There are also certain requirements for this procedure so it won't work for everyone.
 

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I wore contacts for many years, and eventually switched to glasses as I got tired of the hassle of contacts. In 2008 I had LASIK surgery and it is amazing. My eyesight was about 97% 2 years ago when I renewed my drivers license and can see everything clearly. Just the freedom of not having to worry about glasses or lenses made it worth it for me, although it was quite expensive. There are also certain requirements for this procedure so it won't work for everyone.
How bad was your eyesight to start with?
 

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I wore contacts for many years, and eventually switched to glasses as I got tired of the hassle of contacts. In 2008 I had LASIK surgery and it is amazing. My eyesight was about 97% 2 years ago when I renewed my drivers license and can see everything clearly. Just the freedom of not having to worry about glasses or lenses made it worth it for me, although it was quite expensive. There are also certain requirements for this procedure so it won't work for everyone.
Did your medical aid cover the LASIK? if not how much did every cost you? I know this may be different from person to person but would be nice knowing.

what was your recovery time?
 

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Did your medical aid cover the LASIK? if not how much did every cost you? I know this may be different from person to person but would be nice knowing.

what was your recovery time?
They don't cover the procedure as it's considered "cosmetical". However, I did send all the invoices to them afterwards and got about 4 or 5k back. Back then it was about R17k per eye, will now probably be more than 20k each. It's expensive but it's a big quality of life improvement for me. Recovery time is minimal. The procedure takes about 10 minutes, afterwards I could immediately see almost perfectly. First day you keep transparent eye covers on (to keep you from touching your eye), and you sleep with it for a week. They booked me off for the week, and you should preferably not do anything at close range like reading or PC work.

The technology is improving quite rapidly, so it might already be a bit different now.
 

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Whole cleaning ritual with them, not sure its right for me, i mean you can't exactly play rugby wearing contacts can you? Not that i play, mind you, but was always hearing stories of them falling out.
Also hated the cleaning so got dailies and my eyes thanked me for it. As for sports I swim with mine and even open my eyes under water to have a look around. Rugby shouldn't be a problem even in a violent tackle they wont come out unless you or someone rubs the eye lid
 

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They don't cover the procedure as it's considered "cosmetical". However, I did send all the invoices to them afterwards and got about 4 or 5k back. Back then it was about R17k per eye, will now probably be more than 20k each. It's expensive but it's a big quality of life improvement for me. Recovery time is minimal. The procedure takes about 10 minutes, afterwards I could immediately see almost perfectly. First day you keep transparent eye covers on (to keep you from touching your eye), and you sleep with it for a week. They booked me off for the week, and you should preferably not do anything at close range like reading or PC work.

The technology is improving quite rapidly, so it might already be a bit different now.
is the actual procedure painful; or hard to do?

only reason I ask is myself I have HUGE difficulty with anything to do with my eyes;

I close them so quickly and cant even try force them open,

I mentioned my eye specialist above; and he battled with me so much;
also risk factors? my one eye is bent inwards; (squint) not bad but definetly something they picked up;

would this be a risk factor? also age, I heard can be a risk factor; Im 29 right now, but they all advised me to do this when I hit 30 to 35 .

with your eyesight, its not something you want to mess with; you only have 2 eyes, and once their gone, their gone....
 

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is the actual procedure painful; or hard to do?

only reason I ask is myself I have HUGE difficulty with anything to do with my eyes;

I close them so quickly and cant even try force them open,

I mentioned my eye specialist above; and he battled with me so much;
also risk factors? my one eye is bent inwards; (squint) not bad but definetly something they picked up;

would this be a risk factor? also age, I heard can be a risk factor; Im 29 right now, but they all advised me to do this when I hit 30 to 35 .

with your eyesight, its not something you want to mess with; you only have 2 eyes, and once their gone, their gone....
There is certainly a risk involved in any procedure. Also why I said it is not suitable for everybody, it depends on your eye shape and the thickness of your lens ( Or cornea, can't remember). It is best to go for a consultation to see what your options are. However, the new procedures are a lot more advanced than the initial operations they did in the 90's.

The procedure itself was painless, only a bit freaky to experience (see below). It's so quick the valium they gave me only kicked in afterwards. Afterwards it was a bit scratchy and sore, but I don't think I even took any pain pills.

I did the procedure at 24, which may have been a bit young, but I think as long as you eyes have been stable for a few years it's OK. If your eyesight is still changing every year then there is not much point in getting the procedure.

Procedure (don't read it you don't like graphic detail):
They also give you the eye drops to paralyse your eye, then they have a brass ring that presses onto your eye to keep it from moving. Then the cut the lens off about 90% around and flip it over. The laser then burns the required amount to correct your vision and they flip the lens back into place. The eye heals very quickly. It's also quite strange when they flip the lens up your vision immediately goes completely blurred, and when they put it back you can see. And there is a faint burning smell. But it really is over in less than 10 minutes.
 

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Thanks for the responses everyone.

I think with all optical correction techniques , there is always going to be many success stories and many horror stories .

I think I'm going to give it a try though.

I haven't been able to find too many place in JHB that actually practice Ortho-K , but a place I did find was The Optical Centre in Sandton . Regarding the cost , this is the response I got :
The first consultation should be between R500 and R700 depending on which tests will be performed. You will receive your first trial lenses on that day and will need a follow up appointment for the next morning. The lenses will only be charged for once a final lens selection has been made, lenses vary between R1000 and R2000 per lens.
How often do you need to change these lenses, or is it just one set that you need to buy?
 

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You can play rugby with contacts. With water polo you lose a few lenses.
Got iol's 5 years ago and haven't looked back. Better than 20/20
I mentioned on here before that I had LASIK, but now that I think about it it was actually a YAG; I was a teenager so I'll forgive my ignorance :)

I wore contact lenses from the age of 10 until my 18th birthday, then a few weeks thereafter my dad called me aside and asked me whether I want to continue wearing the contacts and that him and my eye specialist had made an agreement that when I turn 18 they will give me a choice.

Either I continue wearing the contact for the rest of my life - they knew I HATED my glasses - or give me the option of doing IOL implants.

I don't even remember thinking about it for more than a minute, I just told him to make the appointment. The specialist did some tests and eventually my one eye was done; a week later the other was done.

That was 16 years ago, I'm 34 now and haven't had any issues, although I'm back to wearing reading glasses, but this was something I'd anticipated as the specialist told me expect it.
 

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Correct me if i'm wrong: So you wear these lenses at night and then have perfect vision during the day? I always thought it wouldn't work as advertised, tell us more about your experiences please!
Yes, I sleep with them and have perfect vision during the day. It has changed my life and I will never go back to soft lenses or glasses. I don't even know where my glasses are!

I got my lenses in 2007. I went for a scan of the eye surface and received a test set of lenses and several follow-up visits to check that everything was OK. The total cost back then, including the appointments, was R5000. My optometrists: http://www.charllaas.com/ based in Durbanville, Cape Town. It did take some adjustment, as they felt scratchy in the beginning, but I soon got used to sleeping with them

Hard lenses are different from the soft lenses: 1) they are smaller than the soft lenses (mine is the size of my iris, whereas soft lenses usually extends past the iris) and 2) they are harder to remove from the eye (I have a cute little tool to remove them which resembles a tiny toilet plunger, similar to this http://www.west-op.com/dmvsticproof.html). I use eye drops in the morning to get the lenses to loosen a bit.

For cleaning I use AOSEPT Hydrogen peroxide and the containers it comes with. I am female, so I also make sure to get rid of all make-up, any residual make-up makes it very scratchy! I always rinse the lenses with salt solution before putting in my eyes, just to be safe. I

To me this is an ideal solution - no more red, dried out eyes due wearing contact lenses in the work aircon.
 

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There is certainly a risk involved in any procedure. Also why I said it is not suitable for everybody, it depends on your eye shape and the thickness of your lens ( Or cornea, can't remember). It is best to go for a consultation to see what your options are. However, the new procedures are a lot more advanced than the initial operations they did in the 90's.

The procedure itself was painless, only a bit freaky to experience (see below). It's so quick the valium they gave me only kicked in afterwards. Afterwards it was a bit scratchy and sore, but I don't think I even took any pain pills.

I did the procedure at 24, which may have been a bit young, but I think as long as you eyes have been stable for a few years it's OK. If your eyesight is still changing every year then there is not much point in getting the procedure.

Procedure (don't read it you don't like graphic detail):
They also give you the eye drops to paralyse your eye, then they have a brass ring that presses onto your eye to keep it from moving. Then the cut the lens off about 90% around and flip it over. The laser then burns the required amount to correct your vision and they flip the lens back into place. The eye heals very quickly. It's also quite strange when they flip the lens up your vision immediately goes completely blurred, and when they put it back you can see. And there is a faint burning smell. But it really is over in less than 10 minutes.
Good to know this info :)

I am 23 and been wearing glasses since I was 1 year old. Eyes have stopped improving last 3 years.

Think should save up and get this done. gthat feeling of waking up without need of glasses or contacts must feel amazing.
 

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Good to know this info :)

I am 23 and been wearing glasses since I was 1 year old. Eyes have stopped improving last 3 years.

Think should save up and get this done. gthat feeling of waking up without need of glasses or contacts must feel amazing.
"Stopped improving"?
 

PurePower

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Just reviving this thread rather than starting a new one.

I've been for the LASIK consult and unfortunately i'm not a suitable candidate as my cornea is slightly too thin for the procedure. ICL(implantable lens) was suggested but the costs were just too crazy, 90k for both eyes!

So i came across Ortho-K... My brother is an optometrist and he is based in Cape Town. So having my eyes tested once a year is easily accessible but i am based in Johannesburg. I am looking for a recommended optometrist/opthamologist that specializes in Orhto-K.

Any recommendations?
 
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