OT: Tiscali

pmik · Aug 20, 2004

Tiscali South Africa has been bought by MWeb.

anakin · Aug 20, 2004

http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/financial/2004/0408201930.asp

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VQuest · Aug 21, 2004

The only thing that could possibly have been worse than this news is if Telkom had bought Tiscali.

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Perdition · Aug 21, 2004

I don't see why it's such bad news, Tiscali subscribers are free to change to another ISP.

VQuest · Aug 21, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Perdition
 I don't see why it's such bad news, Tiscali subscribers are free to change to another ISP.
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Not if you're using Satellite. There were only two options - Tiscali or Mweb. Now my option is Mweb or Mweb. I worked for Mweb for years and I vowed I would never give those idiots my money by subscribing to any of their services. Now I don't have any choice. I'm so sick of not having a choice. This country is ridiculous. We have little or no choices when it comes to technology. You have a monopolistic devil of a company in one hand and a flesh eating piranah company in the other hand. *shrug*

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Perdition · Aug 21, 2004

Point taken, I only thought of normal dial in subscribers. Hopefully technologies like iBurst roll out quickly so not having a choice of satellite provider is not an issue for long.

noswal · Aug 21, 2004

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Not if you're using Satellite. There were only two options - Tiscali or Mweb.
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Sentech anyone? unless something has changed since this article of last year http://www.itweb.co.za/office/sentech/PressRelease.asp?StoryID=131684

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dbnnet · Aug 21, 2004

Having been a corporate satellite user for many years, I've always seen it as a short term solution,
filling a gap in our monopolistic telecom landscape.
But I believe that satellite in SA will very soon pass it's sell by date. (There is however still scope
for deployment in Rural Areas as well as Retail Applications).

With the new ISP ADSL products about to be launched (i.e. Storm and others etc.) as well as new competitors in the wireless space such as iBurst (Don't expect this technology to be any better than 3G though - Even the expects agree here) things are starting to change and satellite in SA is probably going to slowly fade into obscurity.

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Perdition · Aug 21, 2004

At the moment iBurst appears to be performing a LOT better than the current 3G implementation... guess we'll have to wait and see what happens after all these "fixes" are implemented and also what MTN and Vodacom bring to the table if/when they release their respective products.

brooko · Aug 21, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Perdition
 I don't see why it's such bad news, Tiscali subscribers are free to change to another ISP.
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Not really, almost all of the "other" isp's were baught out by either Mweb, World Online (Tiscali) or Telskum in the last few years, and now they will all soon be owned by Mweb and equilly evil Telkom.[V]

AND we all know that Mweb doesn't have the best speeds (or customer service) around[xx(], i wounder if we'll stay on the Tiscali infrastructure or move to the Mweb one.[:0]..if that makes any sense

Perdition · Aug 21, 2004

Er no, while those ISP's have bought out others there are still plenty to choose from :

http://www.ispmap.org.za/topmap.html

brooko · Aug 22, 2004

cool, thanks Perdition, my god there are A LOT of them....

guest2013-1 · Aug 22, 2004

tiscali users will probably still use saix as the backbone, unless dialing into an mweb pop. same happend when tiscali bought icon from IS, you could either dial into SAIX or IS's backbone (different pop numbers)

And yes, IS's backbone kicked ass way back when I was on dialup

Sentech, 99% downtime guarunteed!

brooko · Aug 22, 2004

i agree, i was also an icon subscriber, back in the day....

Karnaugh · Aug 23, 2004

IS 4 t3h win. Icon was *fast* back in the days of iAfrica etc.

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CBL · Aug 23, 2004

Struggling to dl my icon email at lask week at 1 or 2 kB/s
and getting timeouts, even with my email timeout set to 300sec !!

After an hour of hair-pulling-out using Mywireless,
i dialed the old Rosebank POP, and had
all my mail in 10 mins flat [

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loosecannon · Aug 23, 2004

i would assume that the dual pop system will come to a end soon with mweb bying tiscali to leverage value out there infrustructure ...

the tiscali saga seems to be the end of the road for a proccess that started with the purchase of IBI by netactive that followed by the purchase of netactive by tiscali and now the purchase of tiscali by mweb .. we all remember worldonline/yebo net/global/pix/iafrica ... who is next

arf9999 · Aug 23, 2004

The fact of the matter is that it is almost impossible to make money as an ISP, thanks to Telkom. In this kind of environment it is usual for there to be some consolidation. Unless your ISP has a strong differential in terms of some service offering (DataPro anyone?), then there is a good chance that the big boys will eat it up.

I'm not defending MWeb, hey it's just business.

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CBL · Aug 23, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by loosecannon
 i would assume that the dual pop system will come to a end soon with mweb bying tiscali to leverage value out there infrustructure ...
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[

] shhhh!
dont say anything - they might forget to switch it off !!!

Dean_Henstock · Aug 23, 2004

I Think it will be pathetic if the competition comission allow it to go through as MWEB will control 70% of the dial up market, are we not then creating another monoply ?

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