Outrage over masturbating lessons for six-year-olds at schools in England

[Anti-Chris]

lmao... They are going to start to play with it sooner or later... Might as well teach them how to do it properly! lol

 

[Steamy Tom]

lmao... They are going to start to play with it sooner or later... Might as well teach them how to do it properly! lol

that is an uncles job ffs

 

[ISP cash cow]

I don't actually see the issue,

It is not about promoting masturbation, it is about letting the kids know at an early stage that feeling good while touching your genitals is normal but you cannot just do it anywhere, as well as teaching the kids at an early stage that you touching yourself is fine (in private), but uncle Jack is not allowed to touch you in the same way.

Maybe I am just weird

 

[Polymathic]

If kids need to be thought this the human race is doomed. DOOMED, I TELL YOU! DOOMED!!!

 

[wbot]

I don't actually see the issue,

It is not about promoting masturbation, it is about letting the kids know at an early stage that feeling good while touching your genitals is normal but you cannot just do it anywhere

Nobody taught me that. Did people have to teach you that? Or did you learn those things by yourself?

 

[Steamy Tom]

Nobody taught me that. Did people have to teach you that? Or did you learn those things by yourself?

everything you know you generally learn from others in various ways, being taught, observing etc. even things you discovered you generally learn from previous experiences.

 

[wbot]

everything you know you generally learn from others in various ways, being taught, observing etc. even things you discovered you generally learn from previous experiences.

You don't know how I started lol. Nobody taught me anything. Nobody taught me that it feels good and nobody taught me where or when to do that **** and that I should only do it in private. No one. It came naturally haha. Kids discover these things on their own. It has always been like that. Now all of a sudden they want to force these things on other people's kids whether they like or agree with it or not. Stuff like that does not belong in schools, especially not with kids that young.

 

[ISP cash cow]

Nobody taught me that. Did people have to teach you that? Or did you learn those things by yourself?

Nobody taught you what?

The fact that you enjoy it when you touch yourself or that you should not do it in public?
or that uncle tom should not be doing it to you or asking for you to do it to him?

We have adults (especially close family relatives and friends of the parents) that take advantage of the insecurity and the unknowing feelings that the kids have with regards to their sexuality (this is probably also why the sex education is being considered at the ages of 6-8, as this is when the kids become aware but they are still pre-puberty and so all that sexual stuff is confusing to them). The best thing is to teach them that it is normal but only for you to touch yourself in private, when other people come and tell you it is ok for them to touch your genitals or for you to touch them - it is not ok.

Pedophiles and other predators are catching the youngsters before they understand, so if you educate the youngsters at an early stage it will limit the amount of youngsters that are caught up in all this child sexual abuse

 

[Ninja'd]

so is pedophilia

Hey Milo, aren't you supposed to be at the furry convention?

 

[wbot]

Nobody taught you what?

The fact that you enjoy it when you touch yourself or that you should not do it in public?
or that uncle tom should not be doing it to you or asking for you to do it to him?

All of the above. Nobody had to teach me any of that.

I'm all for warning kids from a very young age that no one should be touching them inappropriately and all that, but that is not what these lessons are about from what I've read. They're teaching kids masturbation and how "nice it feels". It's wrong. On so many levels. It's wrong for strangers to force their own views and beliefs around sexuality on other people's kids. Again, especially at that young age.

 

[ISP cash cow]

All of the above. Nobody had to teach me any of that.

I'm all for warning kids from a very young age that no one should be touching them inappropriately and all that, but that is not what these lessons are about from what I've read. They're teaching kids masturbation and how "nice it feels". It's wrong. On so many levels. It's wrong for strangers to force their own views and beliefs around sexuality on other people's kids. Again, especially at that young age.

no dude, you are reading the article wrong, they are not teaching the kids how to masturbate . They are basically letting them know it is ok to feel good when they do it and it is normal. Basically the lesson goes through

You pulling wire in private = Good and natural
You pulling wire in the canteen at school = not good
You pulling uncle bobby's wire = not good
Pastor John wanting you to tug his wire = Not good

In order to warn kids of the dangers of sexual predators and groomers at such an early age they also need to let the kids know that having those feelings "with yourself" in your own privacy is not bad, but if anybody else wants to "share" that feeling with you it is not good.

in order to do that they have to talk about masturbation and the natural feel of it.

LOL can you imagine if they were actually teaching it in class.

"Ok Boys whip out your winkies, now give it a good tug for a while and to really feel good, tickle under your ball bag while shoving a pen up your arse. yeah can you feel it ......... Timmy what you doing - take that out your mouth"

 

[Nicodeamus]

They have been teaching this in European schools for years and the rates of rape is at a historical low. Parents are naif if they believe that they can withhold information from children.

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

Sure.
That's cool.
Only one issue.

6 year olds?
Come on. Definitely too young.
When you are 6 you pee through there and that's it. Why point out something to a young kid who will be completely oblivious to it for several more years?

Utterly ridiculous.
10 - 11 at the earliest

 

[Nicodeamus]

Sure.
That's cool.
Only one issue.

6 year olds?
Come on. Definitely too young.
When you are 6 you pee through there and that's it. Why point out something to a young kid who will be completely oblivious to it for several more years?

Utterly ridiculous.
10 - 11 at the earliest

The dutch teach kids at primary school about pregnancy and sex. A lot of young kids are raped by adults without knowing where the lines of consent is.

Informing kids at a young age is a good public intervention.

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

The dutch teach kids at primary school about pregnancy and sex. A lot of young kids are raped by adults without knowing where the lines of consent is.

Informing kids at a young age is a good public intervention.

Knowing how to skommel is not going to stop someone raping you

 

[Nicodeamus]

Knowing how to skommel is not going to stop someone raping you

It teaches kids about the limits of their own bodies and where the lines of consent is. It also teach them that something such as masturbation is completely normal and that they shouldn't be made to feel ashamed.

 

[wbot]

no dude, you are reading the article wrong, they are not teaching the kids how to masturbate

I didn't say they're teaching kids how to. That would be an entirely new level of wrong. I said they're teaching little kids (remember, 6 year olds) about masturbation/pleasuring oneself. And they're going into very weird detail about it. It's a sexual act. It's not something kids that age should be thinking or talking about.

 

[Sinbad]

At 6 years old??? My son is almost 6 and the only time he touches himself is when he hits his own penis whilst dancing like an idiot.

Early signs of S&M ...

 

[ISP cash cow]

I didn't say they're teaching kids how to. That would be an entirely new level of wrong. I said they're teaching little kids (remember, 6 year olds) about masturbation/pleasuring oneself. And they're going into very weird detail about it. It's a sexual act. It's not something kids that age should be thinking or talking about.

Kids that age should also not even be worrying about being manhandled by parents or people they trust, however here we are.

some stats about how sick fcks have no regard for age

The younger the victim, the more likely it is that the abuser is a family member. Of those molesting a child under six, 50% were family members. Family members also accounted for 23% of those abusing children ages 12 to 17.9

The younger the child victim, the more likely it is that the perpetrator is a juvenile. Juveniles are the offenders in 43% of assaults on children under age six. Of these offenders, 14% are under age 12.9

81% of child sexual abuse incidents for all ages occur in one-perpetrator/one-child circumstances. Six to 11- year-old children are most likely (23%) to be abused in multiple-victim circumstances.9

While the rate of conviction is high, arrests are made in only 29% of child sexual abuse cases and are 32% more likely to be made in incidents involving older children. For children under six, only 19% of sexual abuse incidents result in arrest.9

https://www.d2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/all_statistics_20150619.pdf

As sad as it is to think that we shouldn't be talking to our kids this young about it, unfortunately disgusting human beings in society has dictated there is a need for it. The UK government would not have just thumb sucked an age, there would have been proper child psychologists, sex therapists and teachers and MP's in the discussion to see at what age would be best.

 

[C4Cat]

Sure.
That's cool.
Only one issue.

6 year olds?
Come on. Definitely too young.
When you are 6 you pee through there and that's it. Why point out something to a young kid who will be completely oblivious to it for several more years?

Utterly ridiculous.
10 - 11 at the earliest

You've never heard of infantile masturbation? It's quite normal, though obviously not sexual.