Parents say private schools' admission tests aim to exclude

ɹǝuuᴉM

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I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of black students at Crawford that have passed the exam. Moving on.
Is plenty = 80% ? If not, it is not representative of the country's population and therefore = racist! Wait till Malema hears of this
 

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I would say yes they are aimed to exclude...to exclude idiots from wasting the schools time and negatively affecting the smart kids.
 

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Her daughter, who is in grade 7, is enrolled at the private Loreto School Queenswood in Pretoria.

Mashele said her daughter found some "difficult words" in the English oral test, and struggled with some of the maths questions as she had not been taught them at school.
Think this mother needs to have a look at the education her child has been getting at her current PRIVATE school.
 

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They aim to discriminate .
early 17th century: from Latin discriminat- ‘distinguished between’, from the verb discriminare, from discrimen ‘distinction’, from the verb discernere (see discern).

The non SJW discriminate means to select the best candidates in this instance , why would a private institution which relies on its results go around taking people below their standards ?
 

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Way way back when I wanted to get into a public arts school, we had a day of admission tests, math, english, general knowledge and the art specific admission test. They still do those tests.

I find it ironic that they don't beatch and moan about this.

PLEASE NOTE


Pro Arte Alphen Park High School is a recognized school of specialization by the Department of Education.


Learners who wish to come to our school will need a very good Grade 7 report, you will need to perform well
and pass our specified auditions and you will have to complete a Mathematics and English test.


No audition, no admission!
 

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@ForceFate Of course you have a good point but than again: Do you know the EFF/Malema??? #FeesMustFall
I doubt they're going to intervene this time.

What the lady must do to guarantee admission for her kids is donate regularly to the school. And by donations, I don't mean a few 1000s R donations.
 

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With a name like "Innocentia" I'm going to assume they're not exactly on the mensa branch of the genetic tree.

"Mashele said her daughter found some "difficult words" in the English oral test,"
Hard to believe, if my name was Ntshuxeko every other word would seem simple in comparison.
Is it another way of referring to blacks? You guys are getting creative hey. That Unisa professor said 'people with wigs' and now you. I applaud.

And I suppose you are part of mensa branch genetically speaking?
 

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This is an interesting new phenomenon, these expensive private schools tend to take in only the lazy and domkoppe who are only helped along because their parents are able to pay for armies of tutors and what not to push them along. Obviously not everyone is that type but in general that's how they appear when you see them in varsity.
It could be the constant tutoring that is dumbing them down ?
 

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It seems quite reasonable to offer the opportunity to come in at a lower grade if the child isn't likely to cope with the grade for which they applied.

These schools market themselves as exclusive.... if they take in anyone with enough money then their sole reason for being ceases to exist. There are plenty of other schools for rich kids.... the reason parents want their kids in exclusive schools is their own ego's.
Depends on the school. If they're for profit then their sole reason to exist could be making money. In that case they would let anyone in. They might even favour children who are likely to need an extra few years to make it through.

Other schools are more about maintaining a prestigious reputation. They'll want to take only those children who are going to be the easiest to teach. No need to take chances on children that might do well with excellent teaching, but might not.

Easy way to game the system. Get them into the private schools that go from grade R all the way to matric right from the start. Much easier than passing a Grade 8 entance test. IIRC my "test" in Grade 0 was just talking to a few teachers at the time, so that they could gauge my aptitute.
It depends on the school. Some schools hold the children back. Some require applying at each stage, so being in the preschool doesn't guarantee entry to primary and so on.

When you've got the hook up and are guaruanteed to get a job at Daddy's firm and are set to later inherit it, you've got next to no incentive to study unless you really want to. I know lots of dumb/lazy fscks that are multi-millionaires now because of the above.
They also have very little chance of messing up the business, because there are competent people there making sure it runs smoothly. Won't stop them presenting themselves as a businessperson though.

It could be the constant tutoring that is dumbing them down ?
That can happen. It's hard to tell because those sort of private schools immediately rush in with tutors and support if a child shows any signs of struggling. But I'd say even typical education methods tend to dumb children down a bit. At least in the realms of intrinsic motivation and independence. Can't really develop those when everyone is sitting all day in neat little rows and the teacher is monitoring their work/progress every second of the day.

On the other hand children coming from a high responsibility environment can struggle in the traditional school environment because they're used to being independent and thinking for themselves. That doesn't go down well with some teachers.
 

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*Snip*


That can happen. It's hard to tell because those sort of private schools immediately rush in with tutors and support if a child shows any signs of struggling. But I'd say even typical education methods tend to dumb children down a bit. At least in the realms of intrinsic motivation and independence. Can't really develop those when everyone is sitting all day in neat little rows and the teacher is monitoring their work/progress every second of the day.

On the other hand children coming from a high responsibility environment can struggle in the traditional school environment because they're used to being independent and thinking for themselves. That doesn't go down well with some teachers.

I say this because I saw it in my matric year. I did computer science and our teacher was involved in marking the exam. She said that you could tell the private school papers because they all followed the exact same pattern. She also heard from a college at another school that they have these cramming sessions where they practice certain patterns in anticipation of those questions in the exam.
Anyone who knows anything about coding knows how bad this kind of learning can be.
 

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SA's private schools have been accused of being exclusionary and elitist by using entrance tests to cherry-pick only the most intelligent pupils for enrolment - seemingly to secure good pass rates.

You don't say an elitist school being elitist, where my johnny cage, you don't say meme at.

Actually the real purpose of the entrance exams is to ensure all pupils adhere to a minimum academic standard. It is not easy sending your child to a school like this, it is a lot of work from a very young age. It is up to you to decide whether you think it is worth it.

You don't need to worry there are plenty of schools that don't have this ethos and believe a good education is every child's right.
 
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