Parents want compulsory maths, science scrapped at MP school

[TEXTILE GUY]

 

[konfab]

No it wasn't.

It actually was. It had very basic calculus as part of it.

Math lit is pretty much an intellectual death sentence.

 

[konfab]

My Australian teacher friend recently told me that in certain areas of Oz, particularly for first nations kids, they have revised the curriculum to suit what they actually need to know and are likely to do in real world terms. They learn Math and science up grade 7 I think, then specialize in trades. They do not need to know more advanced math etc.

Not everyone is cut out for Math and science , those that show an aptitude should be encouraged to progress. Others may as well learn stuff that will actually give them a chance to earn a living in their communities.

So having a curriculum designed for native inhabitants based on what they are likely to do is a good thing now? If only someone had thought of that in South Africa.

Aussies are always the biggest hypocrites when it comes to South Africa.

 

[ForceFate]

It actually was. It had very basic calculus as part of it.

Math lit is pretty much an intellectual death sentence.

Sorry I misunderstood.

 

[diesel]

Why bother with maths and science?...even mcdonalds needs cleaners!

 

[Nicodeamus]

Yeah, one day when they are big they're going to be breaaking, burning and demanding CEO jobs.

Tell you what, ask many CEOs to write their high school math test. I bet you that most wouldn't pass it.

 

[Neptuner]

It actually was. It had very basic calculus as part of it.

Math lit is pretty much an intellectual death sentence.

But even Maths Lite is making people drunk now, question is if 33% is the pass mark what has this student benefitted? you might as well scrap maths for this type of student

 

[konfab]

But even Maths Lite is making people drunk now, question is if 33% is the pass mark what has this student benefitted? you might as well scrap maths for this type of student

The correct thing would be for them to drop out of school and work as an apprentice somewhere for a few years until they are a bit older and can then go a dedicated trade school.

But things like that are not possible in SA because of the unemployment rate.

 

[Pegasus]

Tell you what, ask many CEOs to write this high school math test. I bet you that most wouldn't pass it.

Possibly, but they will still most likely still have their logic, decision making skills and problem solving skills that they learnt from maths and science.

 

[dunkyd]

Replaced with learning recipes for braaing mielies.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Maths FFS...

 

[Speedster]

Meanwhile my 11 year old is asking me to explain Riemann sum and integration to her. The guys advocating for this removal clearly don't have the best interests of their kids at heart

 

[Senor]

So having a curriculum designed for native inhabitants based on what they are likely to do is a good thing now? If only someone had thought of that in South Africa.

Aussies are always the biggest hypocrites when it comes to South Africa.

Yes it is a good thing. When not forced upon people or based on race etc.
The current education system is flawed and outdated.
At some point, individual abilities and needs has to be a factor in what is taught and learnt, otherwise it's just a machine that churns out students, a lot of whom are pretty much unfit for anything.

 

[RedViking]

They are correct unfortunately. There is no point for the kids to do maths and science as they absolutely can't do it and there are no teachers who can teach and guide them. They end up repeating the years or eventually just give up. There is no one to assist them and they don't have extra classes that is helpful. They don't have the money for extra resources and they don't have a parent or aunt/uncle who can help them. This is also the result of a broken educational system.... together with all the other wonderful things the Clown Party has gifted to this country.

Scrap these subjects or make it optional and teach them practical skills. Plumbing, building, welding, carpentry, baking, coffee Barista

Although any equipment needed will get stolen or vandalised.

 

[Oldfut]

The correct thing would be for them to drop out of school and work as an apprentice somewhere for a few years until they are a bit older and can then go a dedicated trade school.

But things like that are not possible in SA because of the unemployment rate.

A little off topic but this oke thinks the unemployment rate is over stated and, crap education system notwithstanding, things are looking up in the kasi.

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He should know? I rate him highly; wot says the MBB.

 

[grok]

They are correct unfortunately. There is no point for the kids to do maths and science as they absolutely can't do it and there are no teachers who can teach and guide them. They end up repeating the years or eventually just give up. There is no one to assist them and they don't have extra classes that is helpful. They don't have the money for extra resources and they don't have a parent or aunt/uncle who can help them. This is also the result of a broken educational system.... together with all the other wonderful things the Clown Party has gifted to this country.

Scrap these subjects or make it optional and teach them practical skills. Plumbing, building, welding, carpentry, baking, coffee Barista

Although any equipment needed will get stolen or vandalised.

..and we're back to segregated education systems lol!

Somehow I trust the NATS better that current lot to at least provide a schooling system that's beneficial to non-academics.

Current ANC would kick them in the nuts and steal their lunch, in fact they've done so for years, remember the articles about looted feeding schemes..?

 

[s0lar]

Oh my and there were riots against inferior "buntu education". Seem this was wanted all along.

 

[dualmeister]

Don't need maths or science to climb aboard the gravy train ....

 

[geezer]

sure, but what future do they have? I mean a Plumber in 10 years, will be,

a plumber????

I mentioned this some time ago, but I will do so again. People should get rid of the stigma of being an artisan, e.g. plumber, electrician, motor mechanic, carpenter etc.

Where I work I know of a scientist with a PhD. When his son completed his matric, (with good enough marks to be able to enroll for any degree of his liking), he told his father that he isn't going to go to university, but he is going to enroll at a technical institution to be a qualified plumber. His dad wasn't very happy about this, but thought he would let him do this and her can still enroll at university when he sees that his idea isn't going to work out. Fast forward a couple of years, he is now making MUCH more money than his father does, he has his own successful plumbing business and is also contributing to the economy by providing employment.

We definitely need SKILLED artisans in various fields, without them everything will fall apart.

 

[Neptuner]

The correct thing would be for them to drop out of school and work as an apprentice somewhere for a few years until they are a bit older and can then go a dedicated trade school.

But things like that are not possible in SA because of the unemployment rate.

The problem is these communities are misinformed and easily influenced. One can only wonder how maths and science are viewed if they regard removing it to be a solution.