Parents want compulsory maths, science scrapped at MP school

[Herr der Verboten]

pfft
Wiskunde

Tjesk!

Dis somme.

 

[Big Rat]

Science i get. I did it with higher grade, and nothing what i learned in school is applied to what i need now.
But Math... That teaches you to think logically, fix this before you move on, Might not need full on maths with Pythagoras and stuff, but the basics of maths would be required. Fancy calculator gives you all the answers in any way.
I would say they can go, but my son will probably take those subjects still. I did, and i was ok with it.

 

[R13...]

But what's wrong with being a Plumber with 10 years of experience?

People shouldn't take egg too seriously.

 

[Avbob se stoep]

If its just that basic level stuff then grade 9 would be suitable... its been a fair long while since I did that school thing so had forgotten to what level each grade taught.

Sort of ties into a conversation I was having earlier today in relation to the "Life skills/orientiation" subject... that also need to be fleshed out to teach things like how does the water get to your house, how the power system works, and how tax works as well and what tax enables... Topics like that would go some way towards shifting how the youngsters view the world.

I feel that they need to replace LO with Economics, it does not even need to be higher level economics. Sadly I only learned about the subject in my first year of Uni, but I apply and use it now as a basis for a big part of my "logical thinking process" if that makes any sense. I feel it should be just as important as low level maths.

For example when shopping maths teaches you how to assess value and budget accordingly for stuff that gets more expensive, economics teach you why stuff are getting more expensive. One should not operate without each other, in my opinion.

Imagine a dystopian South Africa where people don't strike for major increases every year due to them understanding how money and value works.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I feel that they need to replace LO with Economics, it does not even need to be higher level economics. Sadly I only learned about the subject in my first year of Uni, but I apply and use it now as a basis for a big part of my "logical thinking process" if that makes any sense. I feel it should be just as important as low level maths.

For example when shopping maths teaches you how to assess value and budget accordingly for stuff that gets more expensive, economics teach you why stuff are getting more expensive. One should not operate without each other, in my opinion.

Imagine a dystopian South Africa where people don't strike for major increases every year due to them understanding how money and value works.

I think it needs to be part of LO rather than replace it entirely...

LO needs to cover a variety of topics about how reality works.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Imagine a dystopian South Africa where people don't strike for major increases every year due to them understanding how money and value works.

If they're struggling to understand arithmetic, I doubt they'd be able to grasp inflation...

 

[Avbob se stoep]

Well, I mean, I am fairly positive that it can be dumbed down to a level that they do understand. Inflation = everything becomes more expensive haha.

 

[HunterNW]

You own 2 properties?

Yeah, trust me he "looks" down on you, from his fscked out old Picanto ..

Busy selling one.

Nothing wrong with a Picanto, but a fcked up one.....

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Well, I mean, I am fairly positive that it can be dumbed down to a level that they do understand. Inflation = everything becomes more expensive haha.

Therefore we need moar money than inflation so that we get an increase.

See, won't make a difference...

 

[HunterNW]

Tjesk!

Dis somme.

Ek tel alles op behalwe somme.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Busy selling one.

Nothing wrong with a Picanto, but a fcked up one.....

Dropped and worked as well from what I remember

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Ek tel alles op behalwe somme.

Dis Lekker. Jys Lekker. Ons is Lekker.

 

[Bigjay84]

A bunch of ANC cadres in the making

 

[Speedster]

You think the average plumber needs quadratic equations or sequences and series?

I imagine up to basic algebra is probably sufficient. As long as they can do things like calculate area and such they're probably fine. All of which should be covered up to grade 7.

Like I said, it's undeniable that even a plumber needs some sort of Maths ability. The level they need is debatable though.

Advanced maths is more about the ability to solve problems than the actual maths itself. We don't teach calculus only because engineers use it, but because it helps develop cognitive function.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

The correct thing would be for them to drop out of school and work as an apprentice somewhere for a few years until they are a bit older and can then go a dedicated trade school.

But things like that are not possible in SA because of the unemployment rate.

An apprentice follows a set path of learning. They are learning a trade with math and science as academic subjects.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Scrap these subjects or make it optional and teach them practical skills. Plumbing, building, welding, carpentry, baking, coffee Barista

You need math and science to qualify as a plumber, welder, carpenter and builder.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

A little off topic but this oke thinks the unemployment rate is over stated and, crap education system notwithstanding, things are looking up in the kasi.

GG Alcock - On 'Kasipolitans'; a landgrab in booming township economy

GG Alcock explains how South African retailers are waking up and have launched a land grab into communities inhabited by 'Kasipolitans.'

www.biznews.com

He should know? I rate him highly; wot says the MBB.

Unfortunately written by Alec Hogg.

 

[Bigjay84]

From what I've seen LO is common sense with socialism 101 thrown in

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I mentioned this some time ago, but I will do so again. People should get rid of the stigma of being an artisan, e.g. plumber, electrician, motor mechanic, carpenter etc.

Where I work I know of a scientist with a PhD. When his son completed his matric, (with good enough marks to be able to enroll for any degree of his liking), he told his father that he isn't going to go to university, but he is going to enroll at a technical institution to be a qualified plumber. His dad wasn't very happy about this, but thought he would let him do this and her can still enroll at university when he sees that his idea isn't going to work out. Fast forward a couple of years, he is now making MUCH more money than his father does, he has his own successful plumbing business and is also contributing to the economy by providing employment.

We definitely need SKILLED artisans in various fields, without them everything will fall apart.

You used the correct term - Skilled and qualified artisans, which needs math and science. That guy with the sign at the traffic light that says painter, elektrishin or plumber is not one.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You think the average plumber needs quadratic equations or sequences and series?

I imagine up to basic algebra is probably sufficient. As long as they can do things like calculate area and such they're probably fine. All of which should be covered up to grade 7.

Like I said, it's undeniable that even a plumber needs some sort of Maths ability. The level they need is debatable though.

Flow, pressure? Boyles law? Expansion of materials? Galvanic corrosion? The quadratic equation maybe not but stress calculations are definite for weight of geysers in a roof. Or do you hope for the best?