Passenger Allowed to Board Plane After Grenades Found in Luggage

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It might seem uncommon for a passenger to be allowed on a plane after grenades are found in his luggage, but the Transportation Security Administration is standing by the procedure after reportedly doing just that on Tuesday.

Federal airport screeners found two grenades in the luggage of a man set to board a JetBlue flight at New York's Kennedy airport, according to MyFOXNY.com.

TSA specialists then determined that the explosives were inert and allowed the passenger to board the plane without ever informing police, the TV station's Web site reported.


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Oh sure... But they'll go off at someone for using their phones in Flight Mode? Pfffffff....
 

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So I take it there was an expert assesment that the grenades were inert....just imagine the guy that just happens to call that one wrong........
 

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Needlessly hyped story with a political agenda in this election season.
Inert grenades are not explosives. There was no threat to the plane or public. The owner was not a terrorist. There was no need to inform the regular police. End of story. Just another day at airport security.

Back recently from three weeks flying all over the USA, my own experience is that security is very tight.
 

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I've read many of your posts and it's clear that you are extremely biased in favour of the USA(not that I'm saying it's wrong), so I'd take your posts with a lot of salt.
 

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He's not a Muslim I presume... or an AIG exec.
 
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I've read many of your posts and it's clear that you are extremely biased in favour of the USA(not that I'm saying it's wrong), so I'd take your posts with a lot of salt.
You use "bias" as if it's a pejorative. It's not.

Of course I'm biased - I actually have some values which inform my opinions.

There are lots of things I'm biased towards: the true, the good and the beautiful, for a start.

There are lots of things I'm biased against.

Everyone's biased. There's nothing wrong with that.

Bias is not the same as prejudice.

The latter is making up your mind before or despite the facts. The author of the above article has clearly decided that flying with inert grenades is a grave threat to the public, despite the fact that TSB safety experts thought otherwise. What a dick-head. That's prejudice.
 

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You use "bias" as if it's a pejorative. It's not.

Of course I'm biased - I actually have some values which inform my opinions.

There are lost of things I'm biased towards: the true, the good and the beautiful, for a start.

There are lots of things I'm biased against.

Everyone's biased. There's nothing wrong with that.

Bias is not the same as prejudice.

The latter is making up your mind before or despite the facts. The author of the above article has clearly decided that flying with inert grenades is a grave threat to the public, despite the fact that TSB safety experts thought otherwise. What a dick-head. That's prejudice.

Merc believes in UFO's :)
 

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You use "bias" as if it's a pejorative. It's not.

Of course I'm biased - I actually have some values which inform my opinions.

There are lots of things I'm biased towards: the true, the good and the beautiful, for a start.

There are lots of things I'm biased against.

Everyone's biased. There's nothing wrong with that.

Bias is not the same as prejudice.

The latter is making up your mind before or despite the facts. The author of the above article has clearly decided that flying with inert grenades is a grave threat to the public, despite the fact that TSB safety experts thought otherwise. What a dick-head. That's prejudice.

Not everyone is biased.

Merc believes in UFO's :)

And your nick is Alien Life Form ;)
 

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Not everyone is biased.
Perhaps.
Very sad that, but there might well be people without principles or values who sit on the fence on all issues, pretending to be objective but too weak-headed to make a decision for or against anything. Other than brute physical facts, very few things in this world are of neutral value. Most require that we actually exercise our humanity and made a decision for or against.

Where do you stand?
 

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there might well be people without principles or values who sit on the fence on all issues, pretending to be objective but too weak-headed to make a decision for or against anything.

I'd agree with that.
 

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So much for their heavy security????

PPC, note the following:

1) The security screeners actually found the grenades in his luggage. There was no failure of security. It worked.
2) They checked them out and determined they were inert and safe.
3) they let the passenger and plane fly unhindered.

Passing thoughts:
a) it seems security screening actually works. The grenades were spotted and something done about it.
b) the TSB has experts/specialists on site to actually make a determination regarding their safety. How many airports around the world have grenade experts on tap? How many can make a decision without delaying the flight, removing all passengers, and sending the goods off-site to be checked by experts?

If you actually apply some intelligence to the facts as admitted by the reporter you can quickly come to conclusions very different from the ones the panicky headlines ostensibly scream.

I find this a very reassuring article, to be frank. It corroborates my own experience that US security screening is pretty thorough, though a right royal pain. This is in fact good news.

EDIT: Apart from questioning the motives of the reporter, it raises questions about the motives of the person who posted this article here. What were they trying to communicate? That US airport security is flaky .. that the USA is flaky ... ??
Backfire!
 
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In the US I've seen these "inert" grenades in one form or another- usually the pineapple type grenade - They are attached to wooden plaques and the engraving plate is tied to the grenades pin and it reads "Please take a number." It's an office/desktop novelty...
 
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