Patient dies after bed catches fire at Bloemfontein hospital

[Magnum]

So they have unqualified nurses working at the hospitals.

Makes sense.

So they have qualified nurses working at hospitals???

 

[Cosmik Debris]

A cigarette with TB, that would burn

Do you think people with diseases stop smoking because they've been told it will kill them?

A lit match with Oxygen - That will cause an explosion and fire. Go ask your local high school science lab.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Do you have even a single source to back this statement up ?
Show us the parts per million analysis in the room.
At the time of the incident.
Thanks.

Trolling again. On ignore for this post.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

My understanding is that Oxygen on its own is not explosive. However, Oxygen rich environment can catch fire quickly and burn vigorously.

Based on contents of the article alone, the patient may have taken Oxygen prongs off and left them on the bed. Meanwhile, Oxygen was flowing and was left to flow, getting trapped under the patient's sheets.

Noticing that he was alone, he may have created a canopy with his knees while the prongs were off and pumping Oxygen into the canopy. Then I think he tried to light a cigarette, at which point the sheets and clothes caught fire, and the "bang" heard by the nurse was fire spreading quickly and sound of hot air escaping from under the canopy. Furthermore, patient may have cranked up Oxygen flow prior to lighting the cig in order to try to expel the fumes. Far fetched and highly unlikely but that's how I theorise it.

Std 7 science lab experiment. Light a match and let it die but still glowing. Chuck in oxygen rich container and watch it reignite vigorously.

It seems that basic science in SA schools is neglected, like the fire triangle that requires heat, fuel and oxygen. Take any one away and no more fire. Basic fire fighting lessons.

Why do people think that acetylene gets so hot when combined with pure oxygen that it cuts steel?

Basics, people, basics. Something sorely lacking in SA post 1994.

Thanks for the confirmation @RonSwanson Looks like we went to school when real teachers were there and real subjects taught

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Are some of the cadres getting offended...

Only because the truth hurts and they can only perform those functions while breaking things.

 

[RonSwanson]

I have been banned from saying that

Surely you are joking, right?

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Do you think people with diseases stop smoking because they've been told it will kill them?

A lit match with Oxygen - That will cause an explosion and fire. Go ask your local high school science lab.

Do TB sufferers still smoke cigarettes, I’ve been told it’s the worst feeling in the world to smoke when you have TB

 

[ForceFate]

Std 7 science lab experiment. Light a match and let it die but still glowing. Chuck in oxygen rich container and watch it reignite vigorously.

True, though I only saw this in my tertiary chemistry class.

It seems that basic science in SA schools is neglected, like the fire triangle that requires heat, fuel and oxygen. Take any one away and no more fire. Basic fire fighting lessons.

True

Why do people think that acetylene gets so hot when combined with pure oxygen that it cuts steel?

Basics, people, basics. Something sorely lacking in SA post 1994.

Thanks for the confirmation @RonSwanson Looks like we went to school when real teachers were there and real subjects taught

 

[Cosmik Debris]

They have ENAs or enrolled nurse auxiliaries. They have lower levels of staff who only perform certain duties, such as bringing food or bedpan, washing the patient, assisting with going to the bathroom, changing the bedsheets, etc.

So what were called trainee nurses. Do they still polish the wheels of the food trolleys or is that below them now?

Those wear the white epaulets. One stuck a hard plastic tube up my asre to infuse laxative prior to a procedure. I'm sure she moved it around like an airplane propeller to cause pain on the delicate tissues in there. When I complained later, I was told I should have complained at the time. Yes, Medi Clinic again.

 

[G'Wobblez]

So they have unqualified nurses working at the hospitals.

Makes sense.

They do. Training nurses and nurse Aids.

 

[Geoff.D]

Oxygen does not need an open flame to cause combustion, all that it needs is an ember. Oxygen basically makes inflammable materials highly flammable. I recall doing this experiment in standard 6 science class:

Next is a video on why smoking while on oxygen is probably not the greatest idea for good health:

Great post!

Just one problem. "inflammable" does NOT mean "not flammable" or incapable of burning. "Inflammable" and "flammable" means exactly the same thing - capable of burning.

One of those inexplicable anomalies in the English language.

 

[RonSwanson]

Great post!

Just one problem. "inflammable" does NOT mean "not flammable" or incapable of burning. "Inflammable" and "flammable" means exactly the same thing - capable of burning.

One of those inexplicable anomalies in the English language.

Dankie Oom Geoff, ek het hersiening gedoen.

 

[Geoff.D]

Do you have even a single source to back this statement up ?
Show us the parts per million analysis in the room.
At the time of the incident.
Thanks.

That won't work on CD - he will just use it to continue on his normal tract which is to defame, belittle and provoke you into reacting, whereafter he will accuse you of all sorts of things. Long overdue that the mods take him to task.

 

[Thugscub]

The idiots swarming the threads are getting unbelievably stupid by the second. Mods get rid of the idiots who have never got their brain cells together.
Darwin where are you?

 

[Grant]

So they have unqualified nurses working at the hospitals.

Makes sense.

They do, all hospitals - both state & private.
Unless she is in a uniform with those epaulette on her shoulders, she is a carer, not a nurse.

 

[RedViking]

They do, all hospitals - both state & private.
Unless she is in a uniform with those epaulette on her shoulders, she is a carer, not a nurse.

So you only get nurses and carers. Not professional nurses?

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

What if it’s not the patients fault and someone else that lit the match
If you awake and the bed catches fire you won’t stay on the bed and burn to death

 

[BuckRogers]

Is this how the NHI will work then

 

[Grant]

So you only get nurses and carers. Not professional nurses?

A nurse is professionally qualified and registered with the professional body.
A nurse is a professional - a qualified and certified professional.

The carers (multiple terms are used), are those unqualified and perhaps studying or training, or others used for tasks like bathing patients, turning them in bed, emptying catheter bags etc.

 

[RiaX]

What is a professional nurse?

It's a rank. Pn Rn sister matron ect