Pay hike for domestic workers coming in 2023 – how much you could be paying

[Pudding McTwinkle]

This does not effect us, but I would do as follows if it did.
•Cut the daily hours from 8hrs to 6hrs.
•Implement a reasonable daily cleaning
routine which covers the main cleaning
requirements and is to be followed without
fail.
•Measure the performance based on
completion of the routine and incentivise
accordingly.
I feel these workers are not managed sufficiently and there is no incentive to be better or make anymore effort than is required.

 

[rh1]

I think for the mere fact that one even has a domestic worker to begin with implies that they don't have time to deal with the daily chores of the household.

Not saying it's nice but surely it is just one cost someone who employs a domestic worker is always thinking about? We did not sell our cars en masse due to the petrol increase because it's always something we anticipate.

You look at the value brought on by having a car and make the necessary adjustments to still meet your obligations, it should be the same with a domestic worker, if you have been keeping them even if they are not adding any value to your life you are a very good person, but most people keep them because they add value, so this, while not a comfortable thing is just one of those things you deal with.

Here the thing, I am getting older, I dont have the energy to do stuff, that even a fews years ago was doable, i.e. small tree stump removal.

10 years ago, I would have had a gardner. Now, there is so much risk towards me that I just walk away. I am also not comfortable using some one off the street who I dont know.

As I drive by all the men/women sitting on the side of road waiting/hoping for work for the day.

This is reality, people just dont use domestic workers anymore. That is actually normal in most countries. In the near future, it will only be the rich that will have domestic workers as it will be to expensive for normal people.

 

[Craig_]

The minimum pay for domestic now 4 times more than what I got paid when I started out, that's a lot of money to pay for a household. I still think domestics is only for those that are very well off, and for those this increase will make almost no difference.

 

[wbot]

Mrs Philips and Mrs Bosch works great for me thanks.

Same.

 

[mojoman]

R4k a month for a full time worker?

I am glad we let our help in the house and garden go. These are ridiculous amounts. It takes a bit getting used to and some team work, but eventually there is no reason why people cannot clean their homes themselves.

Best way forward for your safety anyway...

 

[now05ster]

I consider cleaning up after yourself a basic piece of self discipline everybody has to learn to do.

I get you and agree with that statement. That said, if you want to go employ someone to do ironing, washing clothes etc and have the means to do so, then so be it.

 

[W@P]

Seriously who needs someone to clean house for 8 hours a day? HOW MANY FECKING CARPETS DO YOU OWN?

In all honesty, this **** has got to go. Clean your own FECKING house you lazy prick. Pay somebody to do a basic faking job that everybody else in the West does themselves, gtfo.

But it's so convenient. And at least you are giving someone a means to make some kind of living instead of just queuing at the fscking grant handouts. I feel we don't pay our domestics nearly enough. But I guess this new increase will just result in the domestic coming in on every other day to dodge the increase. I dunno.

I live alone. My domestic comes in 3 times a week. Sometimes she leaves early sometimes later. I don't think she works hard. Lately, she started spring cleaning and washing the walls, moving the appliances to clean behind and underneath them that kind of thing. She did this out of her own will. We have a good relationship.

She wanted to borrow money a few times. I asked her what for. So I paid for the obligations that she needed money for. Without expecting it back. Told her she doesn't have to worry about it. I paid for her kid's school as well. We understand each other.

I went through 3 other domestics while my b1tch ex-wife was still here. She couldn't speak to them and I always have to kak them out about something that was not right according to her. Felt terrible.

 

[RonSwanson]

We require cars in SA to get to work, we don't require domestics, I mean it's expensive in the rest of the world and people clean their own houses. SA will just need to start learning to do that instead.

Either that, or employ domestic workers from the pool of talent that isn't monoracial, like in Orania.

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Yet you probably take your car for a car wash without any sense of irony. I don't really understand why people get so worked up about this, and it looks like the ones who are not employing any domestic workers are the ones who are mostly annoyed when such articles comes out.

And who cares if people in the West do the cleaning? We are in South Africa and we do what we like.

My wife and I both have full time jobs and the house we stay in is a family heirloom of sorts. Without the help of a domestic or gardener, it would take a lot of time from both of us to keep the house spick and span, especially with our daughter running around! It really is nice to be able to chill over the weekend, spend time as a family and not have to graft until midday to clean and tend to the garden. In the end, I believe the government is trying to protect the domestic workers from those who would take advantage of SA's unique labor situation. Employing domestic help is a choice and although we may moan about increasing red tape, we always try and make space in our budget to pay the domestic help well above minimum wage.

 

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[bwana]

R25.05 an hour is a paltry amount to be paying someone to do all the crap work you don't want to do yourself.

 

[RedViking]

Still next to nothing. Slave wages. Still a bargain.

 

[RonSwanson]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1610537582974099456

 

[mojoman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1610537582974099456

Lol...

I also had to teach m8ne to work a tin opener, but have given up on trying to teach the basics of the microwave

 

[B-1]

Does anyone here pay minimum wage? I suspect the going rate is more than the minimum wage at the moment.

They will keep pushing it though until the market changes to what its like in the first world where people are paid by the hour to clean, no lunch no bonus no "loans", no leave and the expectation is that you work damn hard while you are there. Sure the money will be better but the expectation will match the renumeration.

 

[now05ster]

It is maar just how I was raised. My parents put great emphasis on being self sufficient from a young age.

Which is a good behaviour to inculcate in one's children. My grandmother could possibly have let me get away with actual murder. I had a cosy life and it was only when I moved out of the house and married my wife when I had to man up.

We have two boys below 10 and the buggers are still messy (specifically the 4 year old who is in the process of having good discipline instilled) Right now we are without someone to help us and it's tough. No dishwasher, no magic iron, no Roomba running around to spy on my amazing physique.

To add, the wife works 12-hoir nursing shifts and when she is off she spends the time trying to recover. I wake up at 4am weekdays just to do all the things I want to do for the day (including going to the gym, indulging in one or two hobbies). Had it not been for WFH then we would have needed a nanny to help out.

 

[backstreetboy]

The day will come when your boys have to start adulting and realise if they don't clean the dishes no one will. That is the official moment a person becomes grown when he realises if he does not do the housework it will not get done.

Hogwash. My Bosch does it.

 

[TheChamp]

It is maar just how I was raised. My parents put great emphasis on being self sufficient from a young age.

Self sufficiency and convenience are not mutually exclusive though, I can still walk to the mall and walk to work if I have to, so I am still self sufficient without a car, but do I want to walk there in the blazing heat? Of course not so I jump into the car and drive there, that is convenience.

 

[now05ster]

The day will come when your boys have to start adulting and realise if they don't clean the dishes no one will. That is the official moment a person becomes grown when he realises if he does not do the housework it will not get done.