Pay more, or have your power cut - Eskom

[Ockie]

Sunbird still has the build the gas rigs at the Ibhubesi offshore field and the gas pipeline to Ankerlig. And Eskom has to convert Ankerlig to use LNG instead of diesel.
I think Q4 2016 was the expected date. But the agreement is still being finalised

Why was Ankerlig not designed to run on gas in the first place instead of diesel? I have actually never heard of a power plant run on diesel before Eskom started complaining about the diesel bill. Either gas, oil, coal or nuclear. Never diesel.

 

[Pitbull]

**** it, give me load shedding I don't give a fark. I refuse to pay a cent more to you greedy bastards. I'll fill my own generator and you can go sell yours.

 

[me_]

Sunbird still has the build the gas rigs at the Ibhubesi offshore field and the gas pipeline to Ankerlig. And Eskom has to convert Ankerlig to use LNG instead of diesel.
I think Q4 2016 was the expected date. But the agreement is still being finalised

What annoys me is that when Ankerlig and Gourikwa were completed (back in 2007), I recall they said that they were going to run them on diesel initially, but that they would source natural gas as that would be a lot cheaper. Fast forward to 2015 and they still hadn't done anything about it so then they wake up and try to find a solution to the expensive diesel.
Surely it would be quicker to import the diesel and put a pipeline in place from the docks rather than building gas rigs?

 

[JStrike]

Why was Ankerlig not designed to run on gas in the first place instead of diesel? I have actually never heard of a power plant run on diesel before Eskom started complaining about the diesel bill. Either gas, oil, coal or nuclear. Never diesel.

We didn't have gas back then, and gas prices were a lot more expensive than they are now.
OCGT can run on petrol, natural gas, propane, diesel, and kerosene as well as renewable fuels such as E85, biodiesel and biogas

 

[JStrike]

What annoys me is that when Ankerlig and Gourikwa were completed (back in 2007), I recall they said that they were going to run them on diesel initially, but that they would source natural gas as that would be a lot cheaper. Fast forward to 2015 and they still hadn't done anything about it so then they wake up and try to find a solution to the expensive diesel.
Surely it would be quicker to import the diesel and put a pipeline in place from the docks rather than building gas rigs?

You must have missed the part where I stated that they are in the process of converting to gas.
Importing the diesel (Which can and will now happen due to the Burgan facility) won't really help the cost issue. Switching to gas will. And it is not Eskom building gas rigs and the rest of the offshore gas field. It is a private company. Eskom will be their anchor client

 

[FlashSA]

we are getting raped on diesel and coal prices which Eskom can procure directly from source, BUT choose to go through the massively inflated BEE connected routes, a deftly applied 'fkew' Eskom!

THIS

I saw a figure somewhere that Eskom pays up to R17 per litre of diesel. They buy R1.5bil a month. You and I can go buy the same product at our local garage at under R13 for a litre (coast).

What I want to know is, WTF is the media not making more of a noise about this? Surely garages buy Diesel for closer to R10 a litre? If Eskom bought direct and cut off their BEE tenderprenurs, they could almost halve their diesel bill instead of making us all bite the pillow!!!

 

[me_]

You must have missed the part where I stated that they are in the process of converting to gas.
Importing the diesel (Which can and will now happen due to the Burgan facility) won't really help the cost issue. Switching to gas will. And it is not Eskom building gas rigs and the rest of the offshore gas field. It is a private company. Eskom will be their anchor client

Sorry, I meant to say:

Surely it would be quicker to import the gas and put a pipeline in place from the docks rather than building gas rigs?

 

[lexis]

Eskom must 1st disconnect all the illeagal connection of power and those that are not paying for electricity.

They are taking power theft very lightly.

+1

 

[JStrike]

Sorry, I meant to say:

Ah I get you.
That is happening as well. There is a LPG (or LNG. Can't remember which) terminal being built at Saldahna (The pipeline from Ibhubesi will join up with it at Saldhana). Saldahna is undergoing a massive change to turn it into oil & gas IDZ / SEZ

 

[P924]

THIS

I saw a figure somewhere that Eskom pays up to R17 per litre of diesel. They buy R1.5bil a month. You and I can go buy the same product at our local garage at under R13 for a litre (coast).

What I want to know is, WTF is the media not making more of a noise about this? Surely garages buy Diesel for closer to R10 a litre? If Eskom bought direct and cut off their BEE tenderprenurs, they could almost halve their diesel bill instead of making us all bite the pillow!!!

They also do not need to pay RAF levy, so it should be a lot cheaper than what you pay at the garage.

 

[spiff]

as I said many times before - FORK YOU ESKUM - I was a loyal customer since 1986 when I moved out of my folks home into my own flat. payed every single electricity bill ever since never defaulted once!!


I will get off the grid and then ESKUM you can go FORK yourself!!


take that R9b and fix your FUCUPPS yourself!!

 

[HunterGR]

Eskom can go and suck it's dead grandmother's tit!

 

[Vanessa13]

I heard that they don't actually need any more money.

 

[HunterGR]

I heard that they don't actually need any more money.

In typical ANC fashion they will deny such rumors and go have some more KFC

 

[dualmeister]

Even if they get a 50% increase I guarantee there will still be power cuts and excuses to follow.

This country has turn into a ****ing circus

 

[Johnfpro]

Even if they get a 50% increase I guarantee there will still be power cuts and excuses to follow.

This country has turn into a ****ing circus

The difference is a circus has a ringmaster, we have a d**khead in as a ringmaster.....

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

“If we don’t have the diesel, then we go into load shedding sooner and it will be more severe,” he said following a briefing on the state of the country’s power system.

So, in essence .... Eskom shagged the goat, and we have to pay for it ... thats what it boils down to.

 

[Grep]

So bring it, I actually look forward to load shedding. All my equipment is in place, even the wife doesn't care.

 

[Hated outsider]

Eskom is a Leaking Bomb

Pay more Eskom-Yah Money makeing!
What about us Poor south africans, Tell the Government to make a plan!
South Africans can choose between the pain of higher electricity prices to pay for Eskom¡¯s diesel,- everything is getting to expensive! Just now we'll be like the Cavemen! or power cuts and damage to the economy- The Damage to the economy is , the stadiums for 2010, all of that they forgot about! Why weren't you'll get a soccer team to sort the Problem. Sorry don't mean to be rude but its basic common Sense or have you'll No Mercy

 

[Splatgrave]

Thank you ANC overlords...please rape me some more.