Sign up with GoogleIn light of news server performance lately since it seems to be going down and down and down (repeat as many times as possible) I think that IS should release a pay news server with guarenteed high speed access (basically like their server was a few months ago) and uptime, I am sure lots of people would be happy to pay for a service that works properly, I know a few people that would.
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Pay news server, wouldnt it be great
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dualmeister
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Only reason some people buy local only accounts already 
Shouldn't have to pay again IMO.
Shouldn't have to pay again IMO.
Well, imo we aren't paying for it. It's just a extra service rendered by IS.
I think a paid for server isn't a bad idea at all. I'd pay for it if i get nice speeds.
Now i know alot of people will say "BUT THEN THE FREE SERVICE WILL DEGRADE EVEN FURTHER LOLZ".
So what? What right to you have to complain about a free service offered to you? You should be happy that you get that service at all.
I say create IS should create a newsserver that we can pay for, get auth and get decent speeds. Im tired of crappy speeds and having no real other option for downloading.
I think a paid for server isn't a bad idea at all. I'd pay for it if i get nice speeds.
Now i know alot of people will say "BUT THEN THE FREE SERVICE WILL DEGRADE EVEN FURTHER LOLZ".
So what? What right to you have to complain about a free service offered to you? You should be happy that you get that service at all.
I say create IS should create a newsserver that we can pay for, get auth and get decent speeds. Im tired of crappy speeds and having no real other option for downloading.
We pay just as much per month as the saix people and they dont get anything special, we get the extra local bandwidth too. If SAIX had a news service and 30 gigs local then I could imagine but at the moment its only the international pings that are different.
Why do people act as if we paying extra for news.
Having 4mbit and getting 5% of my top speed MAX is rediculous, heck with 512k or 1 meg these speeds are terrible. when you work of % of bandwidth used.
It could be worked on load balancing, all the pay users get all the speed and whatever is left over goes to the free users.
Why do people act as if we paying extra for news.
Having 4mbit and getting 5% of my top speed MAX is rediculous, heck with 512k or 1 meg these speeds are terrible. when you work of % of bandwidth used.
It could be worked on load balancing, all the pay users get all the speed and whatever is left over goes to the free users.
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That's senseless, while you're at it create a new monopoly and call it miniTelkom or something
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I can imagine the complaints if they cancelled it all together tomorrow. You are paying for the news service and it should be reliable. Sure you could ask for a paid IS service but why not try something else?
Buy a couple SAIX (spit all you want
) accounts and an easynews account. Sure they might cost a bit more but they work. At least do it for a couple of months - give IS the boot and see if they up their game. Local aint so lekker.
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Exactly.Only reason some people buy local only accounts already
Shouldn't have to pay again IMO.
Not exactly. Their international is nothing to brag about, most people buy IS accounts BECAUSE of the news servers. Take that away and there's nothing going for them.
This is IS we're talking about here, nothing is guaranteed. In all likelihood the "free" service will degrade and everyone will be forced onto the paid one. But once on the paid service I don't see them having 100% uptime either. Personally I'll just wait for everyone to flock to the paid service and let the congestion ease up on the "free" one
Personally I get IS for 3 reasons :
1) NOT Telkom
2) Their News Server
3) Local 30GB Cap
Thing is that the local 30GB and newsserver go together for me, locally there is very little content available.
So take away the server and I am left with 30GB's of local and no where to use it ...
Make me Pay MORE to for a newserver, great, why not just charge me for my e-mail while you at it.
1) NOT Telkom
2) Their News Server
3) Local 30GB Cap
Thing is that the local 30GB and newsserver go together for me, locally there is very little content available.
So take away the server and I am left with 30GB's of local and no where to use it ...
Make me Pay MORE to for a newserver, great, why not just charge me for my e-mail while you at it.
So you would rather sit with like HALF 384 speeds than pay and get whatever speed your line is capable of ?
How can you say "are yes we paying for it"
Let have a look at prices, will use gamco as a example since they sell both saix and IS accounts.
SAIX 3 gig: R234
IS 3 gig: R209
SAIX gives you lets see, 3 gigs and well thats it (unless u with telkomsa and dont know when you will cap)
IS gives you 30 gigs local aswell and a news service.
So to start off with you are getting more bandwidth for less then there the news server aswell and there are complaints like "oh I pay for my news service", hardly any of the ISP's even list it as a service.
Excuses excuses...
How can you say "are yes we paying for it"
Let have a look at prices, will use gamco as a example since they sell both saix and IS accounts.
SAIX 3 gig: R234
IS 3 gig: R209
SAIX gives you lets see, 3 gigs and well thats it (unless u with telkomsa and dont know when you will cap)
IS gives you 30 gigs local aswell and a news service.
So to start off with you are getting more bandwidth for less then there the news server aswell and there are complaints like "oh I pay for my news service", hardly any of the ISP's even list it as a service.
Excuses excuses...
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I suppose the point that they're trying to make is - people buy IS accounts solely for the news server. Everything else is far inferior to SAIX (sunspots anyone?).
Hence if you take out your R209, you do so with the premise that you're getting the news server. You are paying for the news server, indirectly.
Hence if you take out your R209, you do so with the premise that you're getting the news server. You are paying for the news server, indirectly.
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Well we can't possibly compare IS international with SAIX international because they are in two different leagues, so the 3gig argument becomes a moot point. Yes there are people who purchase IS accounts for the sole purpose of the news servers, so why should they pay for something twice? As if Telkom double billing us for ADSL rental isn't enough, we don't need it from IS as well.
Ye people basically treating IS acc's as 30 gig news server acc's which they are not, news isnt the primary service.
Lets see if you take all costs (especially bandwidth) and what IS adds for profit the news server is probably costing you R20+-
Sure if you have a account that is only used for news you have the mindset that its a news account and fees are increasing, you would get angry, the thing is that you pretty stupid if thats what you think the account is for, after all there is international bandwidth in there.
People go round and have a look at how much the big news servers cost, they dont have any bandwidth bundled with it, you paying PURELY for access and granted the accounts being used to access it are basically uncapped.
Last I heard IS accounts were not called news accounts.
Lets see if you take all costs (especially bandwidth) and what IS adds for profit the news server is probably costing you R20+-
Sure if you have a account that is only used for news you have the mindset that its a news account and fees are increasing, you would get angry, the thing is that you pretty stupid if thats what you think the account is for, after all there is international bandwidth in there.
People go round and have a look at how much the big news servers cost, they dont have any bandwidth bundled with it, you paying PURELY for access and granted the accounts being used to access it are basically uncapped.
Last I heard IS accounts were not called news accounts.
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How many people do you know that signed with IS for the news server alone? I know quite a few currently disillusioned people in that boat. They, more than anyone, would claim that they are IS subscribers simply for that one service. How can you disagree that they're paying for it?
Why do you think that IS uses (used?) giganews as their upstream provider? They could have done a SAIX or uunet and provided a rudimentary service but they wanted to be able to offer something better. Call it a value added service if you like - but as long as its only accessible to paying customers its a service you're paying for.
$10 if that. A drop in the bucket and you get a far superior service to standard news group access. HTTP interfaces, zipping facilities, AutoPars, etc, etc.
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bwana the point is that IS is not a news account its a adsl account.
You cant be expected to demand huge performance for something thats not the primary service, if the account was primary news then IS would have to keep a standard up.
So moaning about pings/speed of internet is justified since thats their primary focus, I doubt people's downloading is high on their priority list.
You cant be expected to demand huge performance for something thats not the primary service, if the account was primary news then IS would have to keep a standard up.
So moaning about pings/speed of internet is justified since thats their primary focus, I doubt people's downloading is high on their priority list.
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