'People are going to die' - Doctors forced to choose who to save as Covid-19 third wave batters Gauteng

porchrat

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If C19 actually was as infectious as they say... we would all have it by now.
See this sort of comment is why I say you should rather stick to topics you know about.

You're not an epidemiologist. You have no way of knowing this.
 

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Imagine someone telling you that a disease that you have isn't real or it's just a different strand of flu. I'd love to hear how all these guys who think it is nothing to come and share their experiences later.
Actually did have that 2009, H1N1, man felt like I was dying, took ages for my lungs to heal. But hey apparently the flu isn't bad...
 

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Imagine someone telling you that a disease that you have isn't real or it's just a different strand of flu. I'd love to hear how all these guys who think it is nothing to come and share their experiences later.
Mate all these serious symptoms that is apparently unique to C19.... seems like just another round of bad flu to me. None of them excluding the breathing problem are new.... and that seems to kick in solely for overweight, asthmatic or diabetic people who have breathing problems anyway.

I hear the horror stories and get flashbacks to illnesses I had years ago or in childhood..... you telling me this thing time traveled?
 

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See this sort of comment is why I say you should rather stick to topics you know about.

You're not an epidemiologist. You have no way of knowing this.
None of us have a fscking clue what's going on.

The whole point is to gradually drive everyone to become so desperate that we'll accept anything which holds a promise of taking things back to normal. This desperation causes polarisation and infighting amongst folks who would normally not be in disagreement.
 

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Mate all these serious symptoms that is apparently unique to C19.... seems like just another round of bad flu to me. None of them excluding the breathing problem are new.... and that seems to kick in solely for overweight, asthmatic or diabetic people who have breathing problems anyway.

I hear the horror stories and get flashbacks to illnesses I had years ago or in childhood..... you telling me this thing time traveled?
With the Third Wave comes the Third Stimulus Package on its way in 1, 2 ,,,,,
 

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Given the stats out there, the chances are the vast majority of the population has had it by now actually.
And yet the vast majority has had either no symptoms or survived...... must be magic.

But then again no one probably remembers me saying at the very start: once a new virus gets introduced into the population that is fast spreading, soon you get it no matter what you do.

This has probably already happened..... why are so few people dead if it is that bad? What were they wrong about? Either it really is not that deadly or it really does not spread so fast...... pick one or both.

I am too fed up with government BS and industry lies to believe anything either propagates without skepticism anymore.
 

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Imagine someone telling you that a disease that you have isn't real or it's just a different strand of flu. I'd love to hear how all these guys who think it is nothing to come and share their experiences later.
Imagine someone imagining things said. I'd love to hear how all these guys who imagine these things said and then finally sharing their experiences later.
 

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You seem so in the know.

A PCR test will pick up traces of non-active virus replicate it 40 000 times in order to prove itself. That in any terms is a false positive.
You seem to view the human bloodstream as a garbage dump where things just hang around indefinitely.
 

rambo919

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None of us have a fscking clue what's going on.

The whole point is to gradually drive everyone to become so desperate that we'll accept anything which holds a promise of taking things back to normal. This desperation causes polarisation and infighting amongst folks who would normally not be in disagreement.
As Nic Hudson labouriously pointed out.... we are in a large part not actually arguing as individuals and many are not even arguing real facts..... it's a clash of ideologies.

Oversimplifying:

One group want's centralized control by a priest class that can tell them how to be safe and tuck them in at night, the second group uses critical thought and mistrusts the motivations of the centralizers, the other various groups go bonkers.

The first group wears the useless masks and douses themselves with dangerous chemicals.

The second group doesnt bother

The other various groups...... go bonkers demanding everyone do what they say OR ELSE
 

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And yet the vast majority has had either no symptoms or survived...... must be magic.

But then again no one probably remembers me saying at the very start: once a new virus gets introduced into the population that is fast spreading, soon you get it no matter what you do.

This has probably already happened..... why are so few people dead if it is that bad? What were they wrong about? Either it really is not that deadly or it really does not spread so fast...... pick one or both.

I am too fed up with government BS and industry lies to believe anything either propagates without skepticism anymore.

Ummm you are aware that nobody has ever claimed this virus is that deadly. We know roughly what the fatality rate and such are..
 

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Ummm you are aware that nobody has ever claimed this virus is that deadly. We know roughly what the fatality rate and such are..
Not if you believe the constant stream of fear porn propaganda.

Anyone that overstates a problem in such a way has an agenda.
 

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Not if you believe the constant stream of fear porn propaganda.

Anyone that overstates a problem in such a way has an agenda.

Its not necessarily fear porn propaganda, it is the reality that is drenched in emotive language... there is a monumental difference.

The problem exists without a doubt and its a worrying problem.
 

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You seem to view the human bloodstream as a garbage dump where things just hang around indefinitely.
Bloodstream? The PCR test scrapes mucous out your sinus cavity. All sorts of **** collects there and lingers.

To your point:

A polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test is performed to detect genetic material from a specific organism, such as a virus. The test detects the presence of a virus if you are infected at the time of the test. The test could also detect fragments of virus even after you are no longer infected.

See the bit I bolded for you?
 

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Its not necessarily fear porn propaganda, it is the reality that is drenched in emotive language... there is a monumental difference.

The problem exists without a doubt and its a worrying problem.
That is literally one kind of propaganda.
 

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Flock immunity yet?
Speaking of which: I seriously doubt, nay convinced, that there is no such thing with this one, same as the other one from that family, i.e. the common cold.

And something else I believe:
vaccine
/ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/
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noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

The current "vaccines" that are touted as such world-wide is no vaccine in real terms as it fails the basic test - provides immunity. Calling this and all the anti-flu jabs a vaccine is stretching it, imho.

With polio, smallpox, tetanus, et al, once you are vaccinated you become immune to said disease.
 
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