'People are going to die' - Doctors forced to choose who to save as Covid-19 third wave batters Gauteng

ISP cash cow

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It's having an immune system that's killing you so we have to kill your immune system? Seriously?
You seriously don't know anything you are talking about do you?

The Covid whacks the immune system in one go and so the body over excites and produces antibodies that start seeing everything as a threat because the virus replicates so fast. Hence the reason why people start having lung issues and other problems. (However in most cases the body eventually realizes what it is doing and slows down, hence the reason for the recovery rate) - for some people they not so lucky as their body does not recover in time.

A vaccine is where it trains the body to defend against that specific antigen in a small amount so it does not overwhelm your immune system and can create the antibodies so if the virus does get in your body before it can replicate fast there are already antibodies ready to defend and so your immune system does not go into hyper drive.

Its like teaching a baby how to swim, by holding it and having armfloats on it rather than just chucking it into the deep end

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7266583/
 

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You are aware that they vaccinate against TB?

Not a very good idea to call BS on Covid-19 and its vaccination whilst using TB, when at-risk countries vaccinate against TB.
Then why don't the mass vaccinate and use lockdowns to "control" TB the way they want to with C19? Why is there not the mass faux panic over it?
 

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PCR tests do not prove infection.... they are abused by first over zooming and then inflating the results (I might remember the exact process wrong).... then any indication of any prior interaction with the virus is marked as current infection..... it's a scam.
:rolleyes:

Seriously dude stop talking, you announcing your stupidity to the forum
 

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Reinfections is a myth, you are more likely to get re-infected with TB than with C19.

Nope. This is not true. You can absolutely be reinfected. Friend of ours has it again. She had it last year roughly the same time. She went for the antibodies test afterwards to confirm her diagnosis.

Symptoms are a bit better this time as she's taking Ivermectin, but she's still down for the count.
 

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Absolutely disgusting having looked at the money that government has squandered since first hard lockdown, that was meant specifically to bolster our health system. All the cadres responsible should be lined up and shot.
 

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Then why don't the mass vaccinate and use lockdowns to "control" TB the way they want to with C19? Why is there not the mass faux panic over it?

They do and have mass vaccinated against TB. The BCG vaccination has been compulsary for all newborns (barring medical issues) since 1973

That is why there is no mass faux panic and that is why there is no need for a lockdown.
 

rambo919

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You seriously don't know anything you are talking about do you?

The Covid whacks the immune system in one go and so the body over excites and produces antibodies that start seeing everything as a threat because the virus replicates so fast. Hence the reason why people start having lung issues and other problems. (However in most cases the body eventually realizes what it is doing and slows down, hence the reason for the recovery rate) - for some people they not so lucky as their body does not recover in time.

A vaccine is where it trains the body to defend against that specific antigen in a small amount so it does not overwhelm your immune system and can create the antibodies so if the virus does get in your body before it can replicate fast there are already antibodies ready to defend and so your immune system does not go into hyper drive.

Its like teaching a baby how to swim, by holding it and having armfloats on it rather than just chucking it into the deep end

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7266583/
Look again at the wonderful quote..... having an immune system is what kills you..... so logically to protect you from dying from c19 they must destroy your immune system rather than improve it... which is what the other treatments do.

:rolleyes:

Seriously dude stop talking, you announcing your stupidity to the forum
PCR tests have been proven useless as a diagnostic last year already mate.... it should be common knowledge by now.
 

rambo919

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They do and have mass vaccinated against TB. The BCG vaccination has been compulsary for all newborns (barring medical issues) since 1973

That is why there is no mass faux panic and that is why there is no need for a lockdown.
Then why do so many still die from TB every year?
 

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Absolutely disgusting having looked at the money that government has squandered since first hard lockdown, that was meant specifically to bolster our health system. All the cadres responsible should be lined up and shot.

Totally agreed. Just heard 5 minutes ago, we lost another family friend in Wilgeheuwel hospital today. No bed available and they left him in a normal ward where he passed away.
 

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cant wait for this article to be recycled next year, the year after that and so forth

Wait, the articles will become even worse as this new variant spreads across the country.
 

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Then why do so many still die from TB every year?

Because South Africans are all bravado, no brains and flaws in the health system.

Minister of Health Aaron Motsoaledi said in March that despite TB being the country’s biggest killer, “people don’t take TB seriously, they are not scared of it, they don’t talk much about it, even at leadership level”.

Sound familiar?

 

rambo919

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Because South Africans are all bravado, no brains and flaws in the health system.



Sound familiar?

You miss the point.... with mandatory vaccination TB deaths seem with a quick google on par with C19 deaths with no vaccine.....
 

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Look again at the wonderful quote..... having an immune system is what kills you..... so logically to protect you from dying from c19 they must destroy your immune system rather than improve it... which is what the other treatments do.
again you not making sense, but seeing your lack of knowledge on the subject it is not surprising

PCR tests have been proven useless as a diagnostic last year already mate.... it should be common knowledge by now.
No they were not proven to be useless,

it was discussed on this forum, when the WHO document was presented on this forum (again by people who know nothing about laboratory procedures, systems and equipment). The notification from the WHO was saying that laboratories, using human intervention to read the results from the PCR system, need to be careful how they interpret the results, as they could misread the results (human flaw)

As I mentioned in that thread, most accredited laboratories use RT-PCR systems which are fully automated and require no human interpretations done. In fact all the labs I know of in south Africa, who are running the COVID tests for PCR are using RT-PCR

So it seems your common knowledge is flawed
 

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Just ping us when you get it so that you can give us a first hand account of what you think of it.

I have had a lot of diseases in my life, nothing has compared to this.

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again you not making sense, but seeing your lack of knowledge on the subject it is not surprising


No they were not proven to be useless,

it was discussed on this forum, when the WHO document was presented on this forum (again by people who know nothing about laboratory procedures, systems and equipment). The notification from the WHO was saying that laboratories, using human intervention to read the results from the PCR system, need to be careful how they interpret the results, as they could misread the results (human flaw)

As I mentioned in that thread, most accredited laboratories use RT-PCR systems which are fully automated and require no human interpretations done. In fact all the labs I know of in south Africa, who are running the COVID tests for PCR are using RT-PCR

So it seems your common knowledge is flawed
And fully automated systems cannot be programmed to perform tests in the way humans would or to get a desired kind of result?

No PCR test on it's own is of any use for diagnosis. It is an additional tool nothing more. It was never designed for diagnosis.
 
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