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w1z4rd

w1z4rd

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Im pretty shocked at how bad taking "sick days" are in public health. Now that my wife is working full time in public health I am absolutely dismayed at how so many people take advantage of public health. Literally every day some or other issue happens because someone is not working. The driver that takes my wife from one hospital to another has been sick four times in the last 3 months and often a week at a time.

I know a pharmacist who took 6 months leave because she was feeling emotionally unwell. This is fully paid leave and she gets all her bonuses. She generally takes 1 to 3 days off sick every week.

I have also learnt, this is not a black white issue (sorry Afro-pessimists), the pharmacist I am referring to is a white Afrikaans girl (the irony is when I hear her complain about how bad the ANC is). People are seriously abusing the public health care system here in the Eastern Cape. Our money is being wasted away by people too lazy to work :(
 
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badtrev

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Its actually a problem all over the country in the public health field. I know some people who feel that they have to use very possible day of leave each year thats allocated to them whether its necessary or not. In addition, there is a rule that they have that stipulates if you get sick during your annual leave, then you can claim for it as sick leave and then have your annual leave days reallocated.
 
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badtrev said:
Its actually a problem all over the country in the public health field. I know some people who feel that they have to use very possible day of leave each year thats allocated to them whether its necessary or not. In addition, there is a rule that they have that stipulates if you get sick during your annual leave, then you can claim for it as sick leave and then have your annual leave days reallocated.
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the claiming back of annual leave happens here as well, not a bevarking of the system.
 
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ghoti said:
I know a pharmacist who took 6 months leave because she was feeling emotionally unwell. This is fully paid leave and she gets all her bonuses. She generally takes 1 to 3 days off sick every week. (
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Wow. Do you like need a psychiatrist or psychologist's note that states you are emotionally unwell?
 
Alton Turner Blackwood

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How is it possible for her to take 6 months paid leave? The general public (ie, the non-cronies) servants only get 36 paid sick leave days per year.
 
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YingYang said:
How is it possible for her to take 6 months paid leave? The general public (ie, the non-cronies) servants only get 36 paid sick leave days per year.
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They put it down as "special" leave, years ago my mum had an ear op, something when wrong and she needed to go in again, took her quite a while to recover, she was at home for 3 months (normal clothing factory worker), Dr. had to send in a monthly sick certificate.

This does not only happen in the publich health sector - in public school system the same thing happens. Actually, most gov departments.
 
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Beachless

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Its a public sector thing not only healthcare.
This country has a serious problem with ethics and accountability it really gets to me to see how little people care about anything but themselves.
 
w1z4rd

w1z4rd

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Alan said:
and so another liberal gets mugged by reality...
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No, not at all. I think public health is good but has disadvantages that can be managed. In fact, many times on this forums I have brought up the complexity in managing certain services like this and if they are not managed correctly, things are not ideal. If managed better, things will be more ideal. We have empirical evidence of this. The EXACT same applies to private. So no Alan, you are once again very wrong.

You have such a polarized view of things that you cant fathom this type of thinking.
 
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ghoti,

I think it's a country wide problem and not only in public health but all over in every business. Even here, people just rock up late, don't pitch or just don't care. Too easy to get a note these days, that's the problem.
 
Nerfherder

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YingYang said:
How is it possible for her to take 6 months paid leave? The general public (ie, the non-cronies) servants only get 36 paid sick leave days per year.
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Its a bureaucracy.... the province manages your employment not the dept/hospital.

I know 2 docs that basically absconded from internship and got full pay for 4 months. This is in Gauteng though, and the only reason they stopped getting paid was because you rotate departments and have to confirm that you are in a new department.

It works both ways though...

My wife got stuffed over by the same system. She was on 6month / 1 year contracts and because the birth of our child happened at the end of one of her contracts she basically got no maternity leave. Then after the kid was born they offer her a 5 year contract that starts in 4 months time... so she couldn't even get another short term contract to fill in the gap, no hospital would accept such a short contract.
She could do locums but only in a limited capacity and we are still fighting for some of that money.

But then at the same time they paid her full salary for the last 2 months of her contract... even though she was only working for a small part of the second last month.

oh and they don't get UIF....

The system is so messed up that I think the healthcare workers basically have to scam it to get something out.
 
w1z4rd

w1z4rd

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Nerfherder said:
I know 2 docs that basically absconded from internship and got full pay for 4 months. This is in Gauteng though, and the only reason they stopped getting paid was because you rotate departments and have to confirm that you are in a new department.

It works both ways though...
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Thats strange cause if an intern misses more 10 days in a rotation (rotation is 4 months) you have to redo your rotation (as the doctors sign you off).
 
Nerfherder

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ghoti said:
Thats strange cause if an intern misses more 10 days in a rotation (rotation is 4 months) you have to redo your rotation (as the doctors sign you off).
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They both were quitting internship....

Funny thing is though that they both eventually came back... like years later. You have to start from the beginning but they will take you back with some pleading and begging.
 
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