Peru officially classifies trans people as ‘mentally ill’

surface said:
Like soweto friends true story, everyone is going to have a trans spotted story soon.
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Might be a possible Game spotting.

It will become patently false when there are tranny sightings in the hardware sections of Builders Warehouse or Leroy Merlin.

Although I suppose Bob the Builder could become Barbara the Builder.
 
R13... said:
I always thought the genuinely "trans" people are actually intersex. Like say, Caster deciding to get a penis grafted to be physiologically male as she's female in appearance but male in hormonal balance etc. The trend seems to have moved to mental health with weird terms like "deadnaming".
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I don't know nearly enough about how our brains work to know if just feeling like you belong as another gender when physically there's no indicator that you do qualifies as intersex. I doubt it does.

As far as I'm aware Caster is intersex. I doubt she qualifies as transgender.

Intersex is usually reserved for something you can demonstrate physiologically. Hormones out of whack (e.g. androgens being produced in XX), undescended testes having developed in an XX person, a penis developing where it shouldn't have etc.. These things aren't mental illnesses. There's potentially some psychological component those people will have to overcome, but declaring it mental illness implies it's all in their heads. It's not.
 
Enby Panda said:
Calling trans people "tranny" is like saying the Blacks, or Whites.
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You can say whites if you wish. It is just an abbreviation. Trans person and tranny is exactly the same thing.
 
porchrat said:
I don't know nearly enough about how our brains work to know if just feeling like you belong as another gender when physically there's no indicator that you do qualifies as intersex. I doubt it does.

As far as I'm aware Caster is intersex. I doubt she qualifies as transgender.

Intersex is usually reserved for something you can demonstrate physiologically. Hormones out of whack (e.g. androgens being produced in XX), undescended testes having developed in an XX person, a penis developing where it shouldn't have etc.. These things aren't mental illnesses. There's potentially some psychological component those people will have to overcome, but declaring it mental illness implies it's all in their heads. It's not.
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No one seems to call themselves intersex though. Those effeminate men are usually physically intersex. Some of them then take the step to make surgical changes into the sex they "feel" their body should represent. Vice versa females with too much testo (guess Caster falls in there). That is what I am saying.
 
R13... said:
No one seems to call themselves intersex though. Those effeminate men are usually physically intersex. Some of them then take the step to make surgical changes into the sex they "feel" their body should represent. Vice versa females with too much testo (guess Caster falls in there). That is what I am saying.
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I don't care what people call themselves. Intersex is a collection of medical conditions.

Lots of amputees like to think of themselves not as amputees but as "differently abled". I don't care what you call yourself that's up to you. You're still medically an amputee.

I think the reason people don't seem to rally as much behind this intersex label as they do transgenerism is because intersex is incredibly rare, and intersex is generally readily demonstrable as a medical condition. There's something that went wrong and it's often socially embarrassing and personal (I mean arguably maybe it shouldn't be seen as such, but I personally would be embarrassed discussing a medical abnormality publicly if it were me).
 
R13... said:
No one seems to call themselves intersex though. Those effeminate men are usually physically intersex. Some of them then take the step to make surgical changes into the sex they "feel" their body should represent. Vice versa females with too much testo (guess Caster falls in there). That is what I am saying.
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There are people who are openly intersex. Transgender people are not intersex.
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
That's what the article says, yes.

Does it actually give a link/direction to the actual law to be read 1st hand, rather than quoted in an article? I trust modern "journalism" (especially baiting headlines) about as far as I can throw my 21 yr old son.
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All I can react to is the information I've been provided with. What I've been provided with seems absolutely nonsensical. Like if I arrived at the ER and was told by the doctor I saw that my blood loss from my car accident was a mental condition. It's like something out of Monty Python.
 
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