Physically disciplining your child will soon be unlawful in South Africa

[Slootvreter]

Stuff like a parent?
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LMAO. Trying very hard.

 

[Willie Trombone]

On the contrary, your partner is an adult and chose to be in a relationship with you.
You as a responsible adult are solely responsible for the existence of your kids. They didn't choose you to be their parents.

Therefore the standard that you treat them

So now you're suggesting you treat your spouse differently to your kids? Make up your mind lol.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Stuff like a parent?
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Do you believe pain is a bad thing?

 

[Slootvreter]

Do you believe pain is a bad thing?

But you're assaulting a kid!!!111one

It's the same as hitting a random stranger in the face!!!!

 

[rietrot]

Stuff like a parent?
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Yeah that will obviously happen when you have a good relationship with your child.

 

[Neuk_]

Why is the analogy poor? Both entail normalised violence against a group, legislation against the violence, resistance like we see in this thread, omens of doom and gloom, and then acceptance of the new norm and complete rejection of perpetrators.
Seems a really good fit to me.
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I don't view physical discipline as normalised violence.

 

[Slootvreter]

I don't view physical discipline as normalised violence.

That idiot thinks giving an unruly child a hiding is the same as beating someone in the streets.

 

[eXisor]

LMAO. Trying very hard.

Not trying at all. During the hiding a child feels pain and is afraid. Stands to reason because your arguments is that this fear and pain works to modify the childs behaviour.
I do consider it to be assault and am glad the law will finally outlaw it. I see the outrage in this thread to be the last wriggles of a barbaric practice that future generation will abhor.
Do you really think I'm incorrect? Anything you've seen that suggests we, as a society, are going in the other direction?
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[Slootvreter]

Not trying at all. During the hiding a child is afraid. Stand to reason because your arguments is that this fear and pain works to modify the childs behaviour.
I do consider it to be assault and am glad the law will finally outlaw it.

ROFL. I'm glad you're glad.

 

[eXisor]

That idiot thinks giving an unruly child a hiding is the same as beating someone in the streets.

As the 'fag', 'snowflake', 'idiot' in question, yes, I do. It's just a matter of degree. In the street thuggery example you raised, is this a big guy beating on a really, really small one? To get the example closer to the reality we're discussing.
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[rietrot]

Not trying at all. During the hiding a child feels pain and is afraid. Stands to reason because your arguments is that this fear and pain works to modify the childs behaviour.
I do consider it to be assault and am glad the law will finally outlaw it. I see the outrage in this thread to be the last wriggles of a barbaric practice that future generation will abhor.
Do you really think I'm incorrect? Anything you've seen that suggests we, as a society, are going in the other direction?
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We're moving back in the right direction. The timeout and participation trophy nonsense peaked in the 90's and early 2000's. These laws are very behind the times.

 

[eXisor]

ROFL. I'm glad you're glad.

Why? You seem to be against this law. Why would you be glad that people like me won the argument?
You do realise it's my viewpoint, and people like me, that got this law implemented?
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[eXisor]

We're moving back in the right direction. The timeout and participation trophy nonsense peaked in the 90's and early 2000's. These laws are very behind the times.

Now that I can buy into. Life does not give prizes for just showing up and telling kids it's okay to do so does them no favours.
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[rietrot]

Why? You seem to be against this law. Why would you be glad that people like me won the argument?
You do realise it's my viewpoint, and people like me, that got this law implemented?
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It's not enforceable and a waist of time. You didn't win anything. All I can say is good luck with your kids. When I was a kid I preferred a hiding it happened and then it was over. I never feared my father. I do respect him though. The times we're we were fighting because of drawn out alternative punishments were they took my stuff away or stop me from going out were much worse.
Choose how you torture your kids carefully.

 

[eXisor]

I don't view physical discipline as normalised violence.

But, but, wives were physically disciplined. And yes, that was normalised violence.
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[Neuk_]

But, but, wives were physically disciplined. And yes, that was normalised violence.
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We'll have to agree to disagree then.

 

[eXisor]

It's not enforceable and a waist of time. You didn't win anything. All I can say is good luck with your kids. When I was a kid I preferred a hiding it happened and then it was over. I never feared my father. I do respect him though. The times we're we were fighting because of drawn out alternative punishments were they took my stuff away or stop me from going out were much worse.
Choose how you torture your kids carefully.

Worse? So you agree taking stuff away is more effective than a hiding? Reread your statement. You're making the case for removal of privileges.
And 'not enforceable' depends of the rest of us. I'll for sure will record what I see and report it. I feel strongly about it and will tell someone. And I think schools will start looking out for it, as will other parents, and those that don't obey the law will be outed, named and shamed.
It'll take a while, but fewer and fewer kids will be subjected to this.

If there were no alternatives, then I'd have some sympathy, but that's not the case.
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[eXisor]

We'll have to agree to disagree then.

That's fair enough.
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[rietrot]

Worse? So you agree taking stuff away is more effective than a hiding? Reread your statement. You're making the case for removal of privileges.
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Lol you think inflicting the worse punishment is a good thing? How bad it is has nothing to do with its effectiveness.

 

[konfab]

Please don't have kids.

Why? Because I won't use physical force against them?

Usually it's to teach them life and that antisocial behaviour has consequences in the real world.

You don't need to hit a child to teach them that.

You really should be emulating what's out there in a loving environment for their own sake.

In the world of "Out there", if you hold someone down and hit them, you go to jail. If the police held you down and beat you because you were driving 100 in a 60 zone, you would go and lay charges of assault.

That aside, please do tell what you would do if your kids turned out to be little knobs and disrespect their peers and leaders for example.

For one thing, respect has to be earned.
As for dealing with their bad behaviour, I am very creative... I don't have a problem with manipulating a young child.