Pierre van ryneveld ftth/ wireless fibre

martin

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Sorry typo it is Vox
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No worries, with the multitude of wireless internet providers doing the rounds these day,s I thought you may have been referring to one of them.

I think Vox might also be providing a Wireless solution. See here:

"Status update: We've signed an agreement with Vox Telecom that will hopefully enable us to launch a 5mbps, 10mbps and 20mbps 100% uncapped, unshaped, unthrottled WiFi service all over Pierre van Ryneveld and Elardus Park.

This will NOT be our desired RTB service, neither will it be available at RTB promo rates, but it should offer great relief to those interested and currently on Rain and other less stable WiFi solutions. We will however implement the RTB "no-nonsense" "fair use policy" - i.e. unmetered DSTV Now, Netflix, Showmax, Spotify, Steam, Origin and Youtube traffic, on this service. This particular service has been deployed with good results in the Eastern and Western Cape and parts of Gauteng.

We'll update you on packages, pricing and availability soon.

We're having extraordinary success with our RTB service at the complexes in Pierre van Ryneveld, and we'll continue working tirelessly to make this service available to freestanding properties."
 

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No worries, with the multitude of wireless internet providers doing the rounds these day,s I thought you may have been referring to one of them.

I think Vox might also be providing a Wireless solution. See here:

"Status update: We've signed an agreement with Vox Telecom that will hopefully enable us to launch a 5mbps, 10mbps and 20mbps 100% uncapped, unshaped, unthrottled WiFi service all over Pierre van Ryneveld and Elardus Park.

This will NOT be our desired RTB service, neither will it be available at RTB promo rates, but it should offer great relief to those interested and currently on Rain and other less stable WiFi solutions. We will however implement the RTB "no-nonsense" "fair use policy" - i.e. unmetered DSTV Now, Netflix, Showmax, Spotify, Steam, Origin and Youtube traffic, on this service. This particular service has been deployed with good results in the Eastern and Western Cape and parts of Gauteng.

We'll update you on packages, pricing and availability soon.

We're having extraordinary success with our RTB service at the complexes in Pierre van Ryneveld, and we'll continue working tirelessly to make this service available to freestanding properties."
What does RTB stand for?
Your link does not work for me.
 

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A Vox branded stand at the Lifestyle Centre (Pierre van Ryneveld) last week has contributed to significant confusion about fibre in the suburb. Since Delitech IT Solutions is also an authorised Vox business partner, we've had a significant number of people visit our office asking about "our" stand and whether there's any progress with their "applications".

That Vox stand was operated by another Vox partner, *without* any authorisation from Vox, and *without* any sign-off by Metrofibre. The operator of the stand had unfortunately seriously misinformed many highly excited residents.

Metrofibre will *not* be connecting any freestanding homes in Pierre van Ryneveld, other than those who fall within the scope of two minor build projects in which Delitech IT Solutions is an actual participant, to their network in the near future. The time frames stated by the operator of the supposed Vox stand are not even exaggerated; they're completely bogus. Those who had signed up for fibre through the stand, desperately hoping that Vox would somehow be able to do what we've been working to achieve for nearly two years with greater odds (considering we're a micro ISP), will be greatly disappointed to learn that their "applications" will be declined due to non-feasibility, and that their details will be added to yet another fibre waiting list. Vox is investigating the matter, and considers the frustration this will cause in a very serious light.

While we're under non disclosure as to details, the "fibre facts", as applicable to Pierre van Ryneveld at this time, are as follows:

* Most complexes are now live on MFN's network. Residents can sign up for Ryneveld True Broadband through our subsidiary Ryneveld Fibre, or through any other ISP participating on the MFN network. You'll find that Ryneveld Fibre is very competively priced, and we'd love for you to join us, but we've promised from the start that the network would be open access.

* MFN will be deploying aerial fibre in the Jacobus de Villiers/Hertzog *inner* block (the "island" between these two streets). ETA for this is Feb/Mar 2019, give or take.

* MFN will be trenching down Spitfire to pilot a *wireless* deployment, based on our original Ryneveld True Broadband model, down Mirage street. Speeds up to 200mbps should be possible. If this is successful, they will deploy in similar fashion down several of the streets between Spitfire and Mustang depending on demand. They will *not* deploy physical fibre here for a number of reasons.

* Openserve will deploy aerial fibre through *parts* of Pierre van Ryneveld, notably the Aerosud area, and part of Kirkness. We don't have an ETA, but it is scheduled for some time in 2019. We're not directly involved in the process, so our hands are tied if they don't follow through.

As for the reference by Martin above to *our* plans on a wireless solution, Vox is still working on it, and we have no further update. The plans are still on track.

Rest assured that we're working very hard to make reliable internet a reality for many of those in freestanding homes still waiting patiently after all this time.

@rodga - RTB stands for "Ryneveld True Broadband". It simply refers to a no-nonsense experience - true, unlimited streaming/gaming 24/7 through official apps, including Netflix, Showmax, DSTV Now, Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Origin. And of course, if you're "tech savvy", several others you'd find elsewhere. For legal reasons, we're not naming them. For example, we've had a user in Njala Park clock 10.4TB in the Nov/Dec measuring cycle. How's that for no shaping or throttling by a micro ISP? :)

[DP]
 
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Pricing (p/m) (only complexes for now, but same pricing will apply to free-standing homes eventually)

* 5mbps R449
* 10mbps R599
* 25mbps R799
* 50mbps R999
* 100mbps R1399

[SJ]
 

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@phoneJunky - why don't you guys down there cluster together and apply for a single business fibre connection, set up your own wifi network, and split the bill? Based on business pricing, you could be looking at R1499.00p/m and 20mbps each if 10 properties share a 200mbps business connection. You'd have to do your own rate limiting to ensure everyone gets a fair slice of the cake though... Still expensive, but maybe worth it and still beats R2800+ for an individual 20mbps business fibre connection? [DP]
 
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@phoneJunky - why don't you guys down there cluster together and apply for a single business fibre connection, set up your own wifi network, and split the bill? Based on business pricing, you could be looking at R1499.00p/m and 20mbps each if 10 properties share a 200mbps business connection. You'd have to do your own rate limiting to ensure everyone gets a fair slice of the cake though... Still expensive, but maybe worth it and still beats R2800+ for an individual 20mbps business fibre connection? [DP]

Question is, would they trench anywhere in PvR if one applied for a business fibre connection?
 

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@martin - In the case of business fibre, trenching is handled by Frogfoot, not MFN. Yes, they will trench specifically for the applicant, subject to council approval. For this reason, it can take between 3-6 months to have business fibre installed (or even a little longer), installation costs around R5k+ and the applicant needs to commit to a 24 month contract (but it beats paying nearly R2k per meter in trenching fees). The upside is that it's an uncontended connection, "yours and yours only", business SLA, and if it's really for business purposes, it's a business expense for tax purposes. We have one user on a business fibre connection in Pierre van Ryneveld. It took about 7 months to get it done, but he was desperate as he runs a guest house. [DP]
 
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@martin - In the case of business fibre, trenching is handled by Frogfoot, not MFN. Yes, they will trench specifically for the applicant, subject to council approval. For this reason, it can take between 3-6 months to have business fibre installed (or even a little longer), installation costs around R5k+ and the applicant needs to commit to a 24 month contract (but it beats paying nearly R2k per meter in trenching fees). The upside is that it's an uncontended connection, "yours and yours only", business SLA, and if it's really for business purposes, it's a business expense for tax purposes. We have one user on a business fibre connection in Pierre van Ryneveld. It took about 7 months to get it done, but he was desperate as he runs a guest house. [DP]

I wonder if I would be able to convince some of the people on my street to opt for this. Might even be worthwhile if two of us are game. R1500 per month split in two is only a little more than I'm currently paying for Telkom LTE. I assume one would need to do application under a company registration number?
 

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@martin, it's an expensive way to do it, but it can be done nevertheless. No business papers needed. If you can afford it and you're willing to pay for it, they will do it. HOWEVER, MFN does have plans where you live, depending on their success with the Jacobus de Villiers/Hertzog pilot, so just hang on before you hurry into a 24 month business fibre contract with Frogfoot. [DP]
 

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@martin, it's an expensive way to do it, but it can be done nevertheless. No business papers needed. If you can afford it and you're willing to pay for it, they will do it. HOWEVER, MFN does have plans where you live, depending on their success with the Jacobus de Villiers/Hertzog pilot, so just hang on before you hurry into a 24 month business fibre contract with Frogfoot. [DP]
Where can one have a look at the planned fibre areas? Is there an updated map available?
 

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@martin, it's an expensive way to do it, but it can be done nevertheless. No business papers needed. If you can afford it and you're willing to pay for it, they will do it. HOWEVER, MFN does have plans where you live, depending on their success with the Jacobus de Villiers/Hertzog pilot, so just hang on before you hurry into a 24 month business fibre contract with Frogfoot. [DP]

Thanks. Any idea when the pilot ends?
 

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Was anyone else in PvR approached by representatives from Motheo Group on behalf of SA Digital Villages?

I live in the van Deventer area and there were a number of Motheo Group employees canvassing that area informing residents that they would soon be trenching on behalf of SA Digital Villages and asking about their interest in fibre. No further details were supplied. Will keep this thread posted if I hear anything else.
 

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They were by me, just off Kirkness street, many many people had filled in Expressions of Interest.
 

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We've opened actual FTTH applications for lower Kirkness/Corobrick/Richards. If you live in this area, you can apply. MFN will roll out within the next few weeks. See https://www.facebook.com/ryneveldfibre/photos/a.300169540410457/614004762360265 for more. Depending on further approvals from Tshwane, the upper Kirkness area will follow. In addition, the Jacobus de Villiers/Hertzog block should begin to roll out within the next two weeks or so.

Re: SADV - they have reached 40% interest in the area and will (in theory) proceed to roll out. **However**, they still need to approach Tshwane for the necessary approvals. This in itself may take a very long time. MFN is only **starting** to get wayleaves now, dating from 2016/2017. SADV is also behind all of MFN, Frogfoot and Openserve in the "queue". Although we certainly hope they get approvals, and we'll be able to offer decent packages on SADV, there remains a possibility that Tshwane simply won't grant them approvals at this time. [SJ]
 
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Re: SADV - they have reached 40% interest in the area and will (in theory) proceed to roll out. **However**, they still need to approach Tshwane for the necessary approvals. This in itself may take a very long time. MFN is only **starting** to get wayleaves now, dating from 2016/2017. SADV is also behind all of MFN, Frogfoot and Openserve in the "queue". Although we certainly hope they get approvals, and we'll be able to offer decent packages on SADV, there remains a possibility that Tshwane simply won't grant them approvals at this time.

Golden rule for fibre in Pierre van Ryneveld: assume it will never happen en be pleasantly surprised if it ever does.
 
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