Pit bull attack revives debate on whether breed must be banned

Anyway, some of the happiest dogs I have seen is the dogs who accompanies a local bergie. They go with him everywhere, not on a leash but not a problem. Probably get all the stimulation excercise they need every day.
 
Imagine how f**ed your laws are if you can't even regulate something that the Russians have deemed dangerous.

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Most power breeds should not be. I love boerboels, but since I dont own a farm and dont have the space for them, I wont own them. Same with Huskies and Malmutes which are cold weather dogs. They must really suffer in SA, since they not properly worked/excercised and it is not really cold.
I had a boerboel before she died mysteriously. She was the only one out of the rotties and jack russel that would watch tv. Needless to say, I could never watch yellowstone, nat geo or anything with animals on.
 
You don't walk your dogs?

We occassionally walk them. But as I mentioned, they go to dog school and burn up a lot of their energy. When they get home, they mostly just sleep because they are tired. Or they burn each other out by playing.
 
We occassionally walk them. But as I mentioned, they go to dog school and burn up a lot of their energy. When they get home, they mostly just sleep because they are tired. Or they burn each other out by playing.
Any dog that needs to be walked after a full day of dog school is a demon, and should be treated as such.

Mine normally need a full day of rest afterwards lol.
 
Unfortunately, because of the image and reputation, the breed tends to attract people that should not own them. People that encourage or do not moderate their negative attributes (which all dogs have, by the way. Even a small breed dog can be snappy and hurt a small child). Your wannabe gangsters, rappers and the suburban guy who wants to look tough.

Like all power breeds, and specifically terriers, these are high energy, high maintenance dogs that also happen to have a naturally aggressive streak to them. If you do not discipline them and worse, encourage their negative attributes, you will have a problem.

Socialisation is also important, both with humans and other dogs. All of our pitties went to dog schools as pups and got used to other dogs. At home they lived with cats. Of course they are still dogs, so you have to watch and manage them. When my younger cousins or nieces are around, you watch them. A screaming kid or a kid that grabs an ear or tail can trigger them, so all interactions are supervised. But this is something you should be doing with all dogs around kids, because I have seen a Dachshund snap at a toddler that was pulling on its ears. If you are not going to put the effort in, you shouldn't have a dog period, let alone a large power breed.

As to why I like them (And bull terriers and staffies): I like their energy and they are genuinely awesome looking dogs. We don't display ours. They are house dogs, and they only have access to the backyard. They are also all rescues, because breeders are a huge part of the problem as well. Our latest pitty was picked up off the streets as a pup with mange, common in dogs bred by backyard breeders.
quite very informative.
you took the time to type quite a lengthy response.
appreciated
 
The story should be whether irresponsible pitbull OWNERS should be jailed for criminal negligence if their dog attacks somebody outside of their property.

You don't ban an animal that is naturally agressive and an "alpha" breed. If you want a pitbull but can't train and take care of it, then just listen to Pitbulls music instead :)
The human factor is ALWAYS the biggest point of failure...that can never be solved. There will always be stupid and irresponsible people.

Get rid of these inbred, great white sharks of the dog world...
 
We occassionally walk them. But as I mentioned, they go to dog school and burn up a lot of their energy. When they get home, they mostly just sleep because they are tired. Or they burn each other out by playing.
Oh, I thought dog school was when they were pups and they're all grown up now confined to the house and back yard.
 
When I walk my son to the creche gate from the car, I often walk past a guy walking a pittie without a leash, I immediately pick up my son and my spidy senses tingle.

I'm on the verge of telling him, "put a F'ing leash on man"
 
Oh, I thought dog school was when they were pups and they're all grown up now confined to the house and back yard.

It is like a dog daycare where we send them. Training, socialising and they look after your dog during the day.

Per the bold part, not confined. We have had a dog poisoned when it had access to the front yard. We also don't want people to see we have pit bulls and bull terriers because the fvckers steal them for breeding/baiting/fighting. Prevents them from bolting out of the gate as well when we come-and-go. There is grass and space to run/play in the backyard. I think we've done a good job with our dogs, vets seem to always say they are in good nick.
 
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Any dog that needs to be walked after a full day of dog school is a demon, and should be treated as such.

Mine normally need a full day of rest afterwards lol.

It knackers them. Even the pup is tickets when he gets home.
 
quite very informative.
you took the time to type quite a lengthy response.
appreciated

Cheers. I'm no expert, but I have experience with them and listen to others that have experience with them, so just sharing what I've learned because unfortunately there is a lot of ill-informed kneejerk reactions to this breed (from both sides).
 
This was a hard watch. The ignorance on display here is staggering.
Looks like some Pitbull owners are adamant about removing their offspring from the gene pool.


The way they think they're in control here by pushing or holding back the dog is pure cringe.
One quick nibble and it's all over... like this news anchor found out on Live TV.
She won't be shoving her face close to a murder dog again.


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This was a hard watch. The ignorance on display here is staggering.
Looks like some Pitbull owners are adamant about removing their offspring from the gene pool.


The way they think they're in control here by pushing or holding back the dog is pure cringe.
One quick nibble and it's all over... like this news anchor found out on Live TV.
She won't be shoving her face close to a murder dog again.


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Talking about ignorance while showing off your own.

Putting your face in ANY dog's face is dumb. Very dumb. That snap could happen with any breed in that situation.

I am going to educate you a little more regarding that video: The dog was licking its lips. A dog licking its lips when no food is around is sending you a message. That message is letting you know that it feels stressed/nervous/anxious. It is literally telling you to give it space/leave it alone. That whole video was a fail by the handlers and the reporter for sticking her face in the dog's face in the first place.
 
The root cause of the problem in South Africa is crime. People want a means to protect themselves and their family.

The options are:
A big aggressive dog, which is an imperfect means of self defence because a dog is functionally retarded when compared to an adult human (unless of course you work for the ATF) in terms of its ability to identify a threat correctly, but has almost no regulation attached to owning it.
Or
A gun, which is a perfect means of self defence because the threat identification lies only with the person who is using it, but has massive regulation attached to it.

So what do people pick? They pick the dog, even when the better option is the gun.
 
Boerboels and Rottweilers to a lesser extend was once considered dangerous and risky to own. The sheer amount of attacks by Pitbulls the last decade or two as they became more common, has made the Boerboel and Rottweilers look like docile breeds.

If somebody cannot see that their is a problem with Pitbulls, you need your head checked.

There is no such thing as every breed would have done that in that situation. There is no facts to support that. You cant lie away the nr of unprovoked attacks.
 
Boerboels and Rottweilers to a lesser extend was once considered dangerous and risky to own. The sheer amount of attacks by Pitbulls the last decade or two as they became more common, has made the Boerboel and Rottweilers look like docile breeds.

If somebody cannot see that their is a problem with Pitbulls, you need your head checked.

More ignorance.

Rottweilers are still the second most dangerous breed after pit bulls. By a considerable margin. Between them and pitties, they accounted for 76% of all fatal dog bites in the US.


There is no such thing as every breed would have done that in that situation. There is no facts to support that. You cant lie away the nr of unprovoked attacks.

And the ignorance keeps coming.

Per the linked article;

Rottweiler also appears on the PDD list. It follows a more common attack pattern: its attacks are mostly aimed at children who have not respected the animal and have not known how to read the warning signs too.

4.5 million dog bites are reported every year in the US. 1-in-73 people are bitten by dogs per year in the US. Pit bulls only make up 6% of the dog population in the US. Who is doing all the biting?
 
More ignorance.

Rottweilers are still the second most dangerous breed after pit bulls. By a considerable margin. Between them and pitties, they accounted for 76% of all fatal dog bites in the US.




And the ignorance keeps coming.

Per the linked article;



4.5 million dog bites are reported every year in the US. 1-in-73 people are bitten by dogs per year in the US. Pit bulls only make up 6% of the dog population in the US. Who is doing all the biting?
More ignorance from you.
America does not have Boerboels. Or not many as its not really known there.

Also from your article, 65% of all dog related death are from Pittbuls. LOL but you claim there is no problem with the breed.
But I guess you wanted to throw in the 11% of Rottweilers to cover that up?

Ignorance??? Pitbulls 65% the second largest problem out of hundreds of breeds is 11%
 
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