Plan to fix Eskom, remove 100MW embedded generation limit, buy more private power

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quovadis said:
So the "availability charge" they're essentially wanting to introduce doesn't set a minimum whether you use 1kwh or 900kwh and it's not disincentivising solar/grid alternatives? And why would Municipalities not adopt the same pricing strategy? How certain are you that the status quo will remain?
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Everyone is already paying an availability charge in addition to usage on their existing bills. The only difference is they want to increase it to bring in in line to their costs. Larger municipalities like Cape Town will be able to accomodate feed-in, but the Free State municipalities are all rolling out prepaid billing exclusively. Feed-in does not work without installing expensive smart metering systems.
 
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Nike7 said:
Does solar end up paying for itself?
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5 kW of solar (no battery) is about R100000. Maximum production is 40 kWh per day, with the average for the year being around 27 kWh.
To pay back the installation cost over 10 years, you need
R100000/10/365=R27 daily saving or feed-in compensation per day.

If you are charged R2 per kWh and you save 27 kWh per day then you should get you money back in about 5 years.

Battery storage changes the picture, since it is at least another R100000 and you end up feeding less power to the grid for compensation since you keep more of the electricity for yourself.

Also you are limited to a maximum of 10 kW on the average single phase domestic connection.
 
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mibloem said:
Everyone is already paying an availability charge in addition to usage on their existing bills. The only difference is they want to increase it to bring in in line to their costs. Larger municipalities like Cape Town will be able to accomodate feed-in, but the Free State municipalities are all rolling out prepaid billing exclusively. Feed-in does not work without installing expensive smart metering systems.
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I don't pay an availability charge. Neither do millions of other municipal customers.
 
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mibloem said:
Everyone is already paying an availability charge in addition to usage on their existing bills. The only difference is they want to increase it to bring in in line to their costs. Larger municipalities like Cape Town will be able to accomodate feed-in, but the Free State municipalities are all rolling out prepaid billing exclusively. Feed-in does not work without installing expensive smart metering systems.
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You do understand though it's just creative accounting to ensure a higher base cost to ensure an advantageous ARPU and disincentivize solar installs at least for the short term?
 
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Shadowchaser1 said:
My friend from SA is currently visiting me in Europe. He just laughed when he read this. Says it won't happen in the next couple of months or year.
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Your friend is a cynical b******.
Shadowchaser1 said:
When he told some people of rolling blackouts (LS), they just laughed & thought he was a comedian.
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He's not.
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Most have never heard of LS, I've never experienced it myself. nor my wife.
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Lucky you.
Shadowchaser1 said:
My understanding from the article is that there is no specific date. Will this happen this year, next year, next decade, next century?
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FTFY.
BTW, the answer is a) all of the above and b) none of the above.
 
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mibloem said:
5 kW of solar (no battery) is about R100000. Maximum production is 40 kWh per day, with the average for the year being around 27 kWh.
To pay back the installation cost over 10 years, you need
R100000/10/365=R27 daily saving or feed-in compensation per day.

If you are charged R2 per kWh and you save 27 kWh per day then you should get you money back in about 5 years.

Battery storage changes the picture, since it is at least another R100000 and you end up feeding less power to the grid for compensation since you keep more of the electricity for yourself.

Also you are limited to a maximum of 10 kW on the average single phase domestic connection.
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I paid R100k for 9.6kw/h batteries and 4.3kw of solar? So not sure who your installer is.
 
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SubtleBeast said:
Your friend is a cynical b******.

He's not.

Lucky you.

FTFY.
BTW, the answer is a) all of the above and b) none of the above.
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They laugh now, but they don't seem to follow their own news, a few European countries have been warning of power issues, Australia as well, a few States in the US.
 
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