Plan to significantly boost number of electric charging stations in South Africa

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Big electric charging station upgrades for South Africa

South Africa's public electric vehicle (EV) charging network is set for a major upgrade, with just one big operator adding 150 new charging stations over the next year and three months.

MyBroadband recently spoke to Rubicon Energy's head of e-mobility, Greg Blandford, about the company's plans for EV chargers for the rest of 2023 and 2024.
 
This is definitely gonna push my "i want an electric car in Jan 2024" plans :)
 
Scooby_Doo said:
I doubt there is any car that cheap anymore let alone electric.
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The second hand market is full of ICE options under R200K.

The cheapest used EV on Autotrader right now is a 2015 BMW i3 for R380 000 and 100 000km on the clock. The battery only has an 8 year warranty so it may need replacing at a cost of around $16000 (R302 000). That means the total cost may be turn out to be R682 000 and that's for an 8 year old vehicle.
EVs are pure insanity used or new.
 
Paul_S said:
The second hand market is full of ICE options under R200K.

The cheapest used EV on Autotrader right now is a 2015 BMW i3 for R380 000 and 100 000km on the clock. The battery only has an 8 year warranty so it may need replacing at a cost of around $16000 (R302 000). That means the total cost may be turn out to be R682 000 and that's for an 8 year old vehicle.
EVs are pure insanity used or new.
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Sure, but in the context of what the OP was saying there is none. ie new EV under 200k.
 
Scooby_Doo said:
I doubt there is any car that cheap anymore let alone electric.
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It is doable. Get rid of the sky high import tax and get a car company brave enough to return to pre 2000 profit levels in order to gain market share.
 
If the government stopped charging such high import duties on cars and batteries then BYD might be bringing these beauties in:

www.thecooldown.com

A Chinese company is releasing an ultra-cheap EV that costs less than almost any new car in America — here's how that's possible

Chinese automotive company BYD has now created the most inexpensive EV in existence, dubbed the “Seagull.”
www.thecooldown.com www.thecooldown.com

And with good reason: the basic Seagull model costs a mere 73,000 yuan (about $10,200 as of late July) and, with two available versions, travel 305 to 405 kilometers (about 190 to 252 miles) per charge, according to Reuters.
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Sapphiron said:
Wake me when you can buy a 5 door hatchback with around 200km range, for under R200k
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It’s called inflation. Unfortunately everything from bread to milk to cars have gone up in price. But so has your salary hopefully and hopefully it’s also adjusted for inflation.

Also 200km is what EVs were doing in 2013. No auto maker will sell them because it’s a stupid product. If it’s freezing cold outside or if you push it on the highway that 200km range drops to 100km and nobody is paying R200k for a car with 100km of range.
 
richjdavies said:
If the government stopped charging such high import duties on cars and batteries then BYD might be bringing these beauties in:

www.thecooldown.com

A Chinese company is releasing an ultra-cheap EV that costs less than almost any new car in America — here's how that's possible

Chinese automotive company BYD has now created the most inexpensive EV in existence, dubbed the “Seagull.”
www.thecooldown.com www.thecooldown.com



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I am actually looking at the BYD Dolphin. Perfect specs for me. Prices range from 93,800 yuan ($14,500) to 121,800 yuan ($18,800).

www.carmagazine.co.uk

BYD Dolphin (2024) review: punching above its price

The CAR magazine UK BYD Dolphin review. The Dolphin is an an electric hatchback from China. It's keenly priced and spacious, but does it handle as deftly as an MG4?
www.carmagazine.co.uk

Even a ICE Hyundai i20 is now R325k at the cheapest (new), so a EV in the same size class will be more expensive.
 
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mypetcow said:
It’s called inflation. Unfortunately everything from bread to milk to cars have gone up in price. But so has your salary hopefully and hopefully it’s also adjusted for inflation
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Vehicle prices have been increasing at a pace higher than inflation for many years now. It's typically in the 6 to 8% range.

Additionally if one's salary increases by inflation you are pushed into higher tax brakets which means you're getting less than inflation increases. At 45%PIT bracket a 6% increase turns out to only be around 3% once tax and mandatory pension contributions are deducted.
The middle class is rapidly getting poorer.
 
Paul_S said:
Vehicle prices have been increasing at a pace higher than inflation for many years now. It's typically in the 6 to 8% range.

Additionally if one's salary increases by inflation you are pushed into higher tax brakets which means you're getting less than inflation increases. At 45%PIT bracket a 6% increase turns out to only be around 3% once tax and mandatory pension contributions are deducted.
The middle class is rapidly getting poorer.
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I'd love to see your maths on that increase calculation
 
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