Port shaping to take a hike?

Peter7

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Didn't something in the new regs mention they were scrapping port prioritization?

Or am I just dreaming of international trends?
 

bwana

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Didn't something in the new regs mention they were scrapping port prioritization?

Or am I just dreaming of international trends?
Yep - The I in ICASA also stands for ignored.
 

Highflyer_GP

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The regs are full of loopholes, it says port prioritization should be scrapped but says nothing about packet shaping.
 

Napalm

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ICASA's rulings sayd lots of things... Lots and lots of stuff, but none of it has come true. and its over a month already. Nothing has been done.

Some of those rulings were that everything should run unshaped, local data should be uncapped.

by Law this should have been done already. But no one see's a difference. Everyone keeps making money ...

Question is what does ICASA really do?? They are in talks with Telkom / Vodacom or whoever, But they never get anything sorted. Just when things are suppose to get implemented. It just goes back to talks, and somehow most of the "real issues" gets dismissed and we still have the same old rules, pay the same amounts, and basically nothing is better.

In reality ICASA is just giiving people hopes. and doing nothing.

ICASA makes Vague rulings, and telkom just jump thru the hoops.
 
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qwagga

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The regs are full of loopholes, it says port prioritization should be scrapped but says nothing about packet shaping.

I am unclear on the differences between port prioritization and packet shaping. Can someone please explain?
 

Rkootknir

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I am unclear on the differences between port prioritization and packet shaping. Can someone please explain?
"Port prioritisation" shapes by TCP\IP port number, usually meaning that ports like 80 (HTTP), 110 (POP) and 25 (SMTP) get priority traffic over other ports. Nobody does it like this anymore because it's way to easy to bypass (eg, eMule allows you to choose which ports you want it to use.)

"Packet inspection" inspects the header of each TCP\IP packet and determines what the traffic type is (eg, HTTP, p2p or POP). This information is then used to assign a priority to the packet for QOS or shaping purposes.

In other words the ICASA regulations regarding "port prioritisation" mean nothing, since nobody shapes by port anymore.
 

qwagga

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So in short, if you don't use a application whereby you can change the TCP port for communication, there is really no difference between prioritisation and shaping?
 

rwenzori

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In other words the ICASA regulations regarding "port prioritisation" mean nothing, since nobody shapes by port anymore.

It was only about 6 months ago that running NNTP on port 23 instead of 119 through Uunet/Verizon gave a HUGE speed boost. I am with IS now, so don't know, but I suspect there is still port shaping going around.
 
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