Possible end to animal testing in sight?

[BCO]

Experts from companies including drug giants AstraZeneca, Procter & Gamble, Unilever and cosmetics firm L'Oreal endorsed a Europe-wide initiative described as a road-map towards ending the use of animals in research and safety testing.
In a report to be published this week, they will say the future of safety testing of new drugs and chemical products lies in new technologies that use cell cultures and computer models rather than living animals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...cs-firms-back-plan-to-cut-animal-testing.html

Possibly fantastic news!

 

[BCO]

It's a proven fact that mammals, birds, fish, reptiles and some cephalopods are sentient beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience

 

[BCO]

Guess we've got to arrest all people eating meat from now on. Veganism may now need to be enforced by law.

... colud also be a matter of syntax there, the "ability to sense and perceive",is not the same as an "automated reaction". ..are you sentient while sleep walking? bit of neurology also comes coupled.

Not sure I'm following you here.

 

[HavocXphere]

For stuff like beauty products cell cultures and computer models could work.

But for hardcore drugs...not a chance. Hell they can't even work out why/how the drugs work in some cases (e.g. Lithium). And its not just isolated cases: That coffee you (a billion or so others) drink every morning helps protect your liver against scaring. Nobody knows how/why. Thats the level of knowledge available on some of these drugs. And they want to model that? LMAO

What they should be doing is this: Leave animal testing in place but reduced in scale and slot the cell & computer testing in *before* the animal testing.

There is a darker side to this too: Companies can & have been moving away from animal testing for a while. They just use human testing earlier: Get a bunch of volunteers, give them cash, bury them in NDAs & waivers. Problem solved: The testing gets done and the NDAs keep the whole thing under wraps. So instead of animals suffering we've got humans test subjects at increased risk & (possibly) suffering. People die in these tests. And the animal rights people call that a success.

On the whole though this is definitely a positive development.

 

[HavocXphere]

Killing something sentient is called MURDER

No its not.

 

[Gargmel]

Lets arrest all the lions and tigers for murder too! And do not forget those serial killer crocodiles!

 

[nightjar]

Ian Appleton is a perfect substitute for animals when testing potentially nasty things. Same goes for other serious criminals.

It won't happen because under our ridiculous constitution the human rights of criminals far outweigh the pain of their victims and human obligations are no longer considered necessary.

Paedophile’s victims speak out
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/paedophile-s-victims-speak-out-1.913139