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[Lupus]

Weelll... not the thread for it, but I'm one of those who believes the "emergency" is politically fabricated, that we're merely going through natural changes that the Earth does.

But, pollution IS still a problem.

Plus, if they get big enough, they too can cause issues

When the size of solar farms affects weather patterns - ESI-Africa.com

Beyond a certain size, solar farms become large enough to affect the weather around them and ultimately the climate as a whole.

www.esi-africa.com

Especially if you have them in the wrong place where it can perhaps effect things like essential winds, or heaven forbid we put big turbines into the water to effect currents

 

[Mike Angelo]

That is one, Sasol has Sasol One
Technically Tshwane has 2, but they've not run for many many years

There was a mothballed one in Bloemfontein as well, in 2015 the municipality cadres were planning to refurb it. Don't know how far that has progressed.

 

[Lupus]

There was a mothballed one in Bloemfontein as well, in 2015 the municipality cadres were planning to refurb it. Don't know how far that has progressed.

Yeah, they were supposed to do that with the Tshwane ones as well.

 

[porchrat]

There was a mothballed one in Bloemfontein as well, in 2015 the municipality cadres were planning to refurb it. Don't know how far that has progressed.

Athlone in Cape Town too. Just a shell for decades now. It's small potatoes though. Not even 200MW.

 

[Lupus]

Athlone in Cape Town too. Just a shell for decades now. It's small potatoes though. Not even 200MW.

That's 2 stages off for Cape Town, throw that in with the dam and bam

 

[Brian_G]

I think we should send Minister Lupus, armed with all our ideas too, to parliament.

 

[Lupus]

I think we should send Minister Lupus, armed with all our ideas too, to parliament.

No I might be called a defender and a shill. My delicate ego is bruised

 

[Brian_G]

No I might be called a defender and a shill. My delicate ego is bruised

You must serve your comrades!

 

[Lupus]

You must serve your comrades!

Shoo now I am communist on top of that... It just never ends

 

[Johnatan56]

Plus, if they get big enough, they too can cause issues

When the size of solar farms affects weather patterns - ESI-Africa.com

Beyond a certain size, solar farms become large enough to affect the weather around them and ultimately the climate as a whole.

www.esi-africa.com

Especially if you have them in the wrong place where it can perhaps effect things like essential winds, or heaven forbid we put big turbines into the water to effect currents

What an out of context link. They're talking about weather pattern effect for covering 20% of all deserts.

 

[Johnatan56]

Weelll... not the thread for it, but I'm one of those who believes the "emergency" is politically fabricated, that we're merely going through natural changes that the Earth does.

But, pollution IS still a problem.

Dunno, when "“Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening.” (2014)3"

Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities

science.nasa.gov

And you even have oil companies nowadays admitting to it (and evidence of them suppressing it - Exxon for example, and how they're trying to suppress action even now), not sure why you'd have any doubt about it. Can clearly see the effect/difference in just 10-20 years.

 

[Brian_G]

Dunno, when "“Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening.” (2014)3"

Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities

science.nasa.gov

And you even have oil companies nowadays admitting to it (and evidence of them suppressing it - Exxon for example, and how they're trying to suppress action even now), not sure why you'd have any doubt about it. Can clearly see the effect/difference in just 10-20 years.

Fairly sure the same was said about how many scientists supported the Covid "facts", turned out just as many scientists were opposed, but were suppressed from getting to have a public voice.
There are certainly some well known respected voices claiming it's absolute bollocks. There's a good video that made up my mind, will post a link later if I can find it again.

And if wondering what the logical reason for it could be, let's not forget the very non-logical extreme political events of the not so distant past.

But, as suggested, not the thread for it. There are a few old ones, with plenty of evidence though.

 

[Brian_G]

But, pollution IS still a problem.

Certainly, there is a longer term threat. The original concerns about the end of this century still concern me.


@Johnatan56 , did find the video, but as predicted it's been removed from YouTube. Nevermind, it will pop up again, and again, I'm sure.

Catch this before it vanishes from YouTube

Climate: The Movie" highlights a different perspective on the climate change debate and is supported by scientists who have signed the Clintel's World Climate Declaration. This group of researchers seeks to present an alternative narrative in the face of the dominant discourse.

I'll leave it there.

 

[Brian_G]

I'll leave it there.

Nope. Found a new link.
May be a good idea to download it if any of you have the tools to do so.

 

[Johnatan56]

Nope. Found a new link.
May be a good idea to download it if any of you have the tools to do so.

That's definitely not a trusted source.

Fake graphs and daft conspiracy yarns in Durkin’s latest propaganda film - Grantham Research Institute on climate change and the environment

Pallavi Sethi and Bob Ward pick apart British propagandist Martin Durkin's latest film, 'Climate: The Movie'.

www.lse.ac.uk

Note .ac.uk -> academia UK.

 

[Johnatan56]

Fairly sure the same was said about how many scientists supported the Covid "facts", turned out just as many scientists were opposed, but were suppressed from getting to have a public voice.
There are certainly some well known respected voices claiming it's absolute bollocks. There's a good video that made up my mind, will post a link later if I can find it again.

Not sure what "facts" you're talking about, and only ones that were "suppressed"/were not published in accredited journals were those who were screaming unsubstantiated "facts" from the rooftops. Remember an Ophthalmologists trying to convince me that covid vaccines would mean I become infertile since it changes my DNA, that was a fun discussion to have.

And if wondering what the logical reason for it could be, let's not forget the very non-logical extreme political events of the not so distant past.

But, as suggested, not the thread for it. There are a few old ones, with plenty of evidence though.

And they are all debunked with just a certain section of the forum who keeps posting the nonsense and the rest of us just not caring at this point.

 

[Brian_G]

Just watch the video people, never mind who you think I am or what value I am to you.

Just watch, about 10 to 15 min. should be enough to get you going re who all made it (hint: seriously famous scientists) and how easy this situation is to disprove.


And don't miss the developing story behind this either (although perhaps best not to study it on MSM).




^^ Sorry, don't have a link, only this screen-grab that was forwarded to me.

 

[Gordon_R]

And in news from elsewhere:

Sri Lanka: Minister blames monkey for nationwide power cut

The outage is yet to be fully fixed, meaning hospitals and other buildings are having to use generators.

www.bbc.com

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

And in news from elsewhere:

Sri Lanka: Minister blames monkey for nationwide power cut

The outage is yet to be fully fixed, meaning hospitals and other buildings are having to use generators.

www.bbc.com

dangerous word Monkey in SA, some people have delicate ego's

 

[Brian_G]

dangerous word Monkey in SA, some people have delicate ego's

Dangerous to draw attention to it as well my man... :-/