President Ramaphosa explains how government plans to stop load-shedding

Acknowledge there is a problem with power generation....wow how insightful. I am utterly blown away. How about acknowledging that because of corruption on a massive scale, zero foresight 20 years ago to start building power stations and general mismanagment because the pompous ANC think they know everything. How about acknowledging those things squirrel.
 
Ramaphosa explains the plan to stop load-shedding in South Africa
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1. BBBEE
2. AA
3. Issue a tender
4. Change the name of something
5. Express concern but do nothing
6. Blame the previous regime
7. Rename something
8. Drop the pass mark for electrical engineers
9. Blame the white guy
10. Issue a tender
 
They haven't "allowed" sht. Loadshedding will get better because every Tom,Dick and Harry with the means is going solar which MASSIVELY reduces the load from the grid. And everytime they loadshed, it just pushes more and more individuals and businesses to do the same. Almost every single mall and shopping complex in n bloemfontein has roofs packed with panels. Even the university is apparently busy with and close to commissioning the largest solar farm in the province to get off grid.
 
Ag, just get a couple hundreds of
ambroseg1 said:
Almost every single mall and shopping complex in n bloemfontein has roofs packed with panels.
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Same here in Guptastan.

When we relocate, we'll be going straight over to solar, no more eskom.

Eskom se moer.
 
ambroseg1 said:
They haven't "allowed" sht. Loadshedding will get better because every Tom,Dick and Harry with the means is going solar which MASSIVELY reduces the load from the grid. And everytime they loadshed, it just pushes more and more individuals and businesses to do the same. Almost every single mall and shopping complex in n bloemfontein has roofs packed with panels. Even the university is apparently busy with and close to commissioning the largest solar farm in the province to get off grid.
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Ironically they are grid tied AFAIK, so they don't work during loadshedding. IMHO, these setups are to offset the exorbitant price increases more than loadshedding.
To be off-grid you need battery backup. How many batteries will the university use?
 
wingnut771 said:
Ironically they are grid tied AFAIK, so they don't work during loadshedding. IMHO, these setups are to offset the exorbitant price increases more than loadshedding.
To be off-grid you need battery backup. How many batteries will the university use?
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Yeah a couple of malls here in Joburg went grid-tied solar panels, so went there during load shedding and it was like but you've got 1Mw of panels on the roof and you can't do anything with them that's silly.
 
Lupus said:
Yeah a couple of malls here in Joburg went grid-tied solar panels, so went there during load shedding and it was like but you've got 1Mw of panels on the roof and you can't do anything with them that's silly.
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There are a myriad of installations like that around DBN as well, most of the malls have something like that as well down here and many office parks as well.

I do wonder how much of a step it would be to expand the installations and to add some level of storage backing it to provide a portion of off-grid capability.
 
ToxicBunny said:
There are a myriad of installations like that around DBN as well, most of the malls have something like that as well down here and many office parks as well.

I do wonder how much of a step it would be to expand the installations and to add some level of storage backing it to provide a portion of off-grid capability.
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Or they could've gone hybrid and not grid tied? Was silly to go grid tied instead of hybrid, that way during the day if there is load shedding you're still pulling off the PV.
 
Lupus said:
Or they could've gone hybrid and not grid tied? Was silly to go grid tied instead of hybrid, that way during the day if there is load shedding you're still pulling off the PV.
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I think it was part of the way the licensing regime was setup back then... easier run to go grid-tied than hybrid for such a large installation.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I think it was part of the way the licensing regime was setup back then... easier run to go grid-tied than hybrid for such a large installation.
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Possibly, but still rather silly, I mean I know offsetting your costs when it's running. But anyway :) still find it funny massive PV array can't use it when needed.
 
wingnut771 said:
Ironically they are grid tied AFAIK, so they don't work during loadshedding. IMHO, these setups are to offset the exorbitant price increases more than loadshedding.
To be off-grid you need battery backup. How many batteries will the university use?
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They ALL have generators for loadshedding. But agree, I doubt they can afford the battery backup required for loads. And you are correct, they are primarily there to offset exorbitant price increases. Point is, they take MASSIVE strain off the grid.

I have absolutely no idea about the battery backup of the university. I think it may just work the same as the shopping complexes as you described. Just to offset costs.

Sauce
 
ambroseg1 said:
They ALL have generators for loadshedding. But agree, I doubt they can afford the battery backup required for loads. And you are correct, they are primarily there to offset exorbitant price increases. Point is, they take MASSIVE strain off the grid.

I have absolutely no idea about the battery backup of the university. I think it may just work the same as the shopping complexes as you described. Just to offset costs.

Sauce
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Yeah I know, but kinda dumb when the sun is shining.
 
thechamp said:
Too little, too late for what?
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Implementing the so-called strategy to stop load shedding. If they could've done this, it would've been done ages ago. This is nothing but vapourware to placate the masses. Nothing to see here...
 
wingnut771 said:
Yes, I mean save on diesel when the sun shines.
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How much will the required batteries cost vs how much diesel you can buy with that money?

It's like buying a diesel car for R20 000 more than the same petrol model, and then taking 6 years before you even start saving money, because that R20 000 could have bought a hell lot of petrol (at whatever price and consumption difference it has with the diesel)
 
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