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Anyone with a good knowledge of Fibre and it's installation please give me an idea of how would they run the fibre into each townhouse in a complex?
 

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Thanks, but these are more about free standing residential installations, i would like to know how they bring the fibre into a townhouse, granted there might be various installations methods, but all complex fibre runs underground, and nothing as far as i know and can see can come up out of ground to a unit. I assume they would use the same pipe through as the electrical work to each unit.

For example in my unit, there is a blank box in the kitchen, with 2 open pvc pipes leading into the box, i assume that those are for such installations as telecoms, but not really sure. It doesnt bother me that much, it's just a nice to know. And possibly allow me to plan my network setup when fibre is installed.
 

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I would like to know how they bring the fibre into a townhouse, granted there might be various installations methods, but all complex fibre runs underground, and nothing as far as i know and can see can come up out of ground to a unit.
In a complex where the planner(s) have decided not to allow aerial (overhead) distribution for fixed-line services, the usual arrangement is to have one or more dedicated conduits running from a service distribution points in the roadways, to designated outlet point(s) in the house.
From the recent Mooikloof pics it certainly seems that some of the complexes there already have underground ducts running through the main arterials.
There may be above-ground distribution cabinets for fixed-line services, or perhaps those too, are underground.


I assume they would use the same pipe through as the electrical work to each unit.
Generally speaking, it's not legal to run low-voltage wiring (like telephone, TV, intercom, ethernet etc) inside the same duct (conduit) as power conductors, primarily for safety reasons, but also to prevent possible interference. Granted fibre is something of a special case, because it's essentially non-conductive (unlike copper fixed lines), however unless your complex is really new (like <3 years old), its likely that the developers made provision for fixed-line services with copper in mind, ie in conduits separate from mains wiring.

Unless the ducting was specifically laid out with fibre in mind (ie large bore and gentle bends), it's difficult enough to pull the drop cable through to the house unbroken when it is alone in the duct. You don't want to try that together with multiple heavy-gauge power conductors!

If you already have fixed-line analogue (copper) telephone services, or provision for them, those would be the ducts to look for and use (or re-use).


For example in my unit, there is a blank box in the kitchen, with 2 open pvc pipes leading into the box, i assume that those are for such installations as telecoms, but not really sure.
Those could well be for fixed-line telecoms or other LV services (telephone), yes; although conduits intended for LV services would usually terminate in a lounge (TV), or study (telephone) etc.
If you can get access to the original plans for your place, check how these "unused" boxes are designated. The complex developer, or one of the "old hands" on your Body Corporate, should also know what the designers' intention was.
As an alternative, a good way to find where those conduits run to is to get hold of a portable compressor and use it to blow compressed air into the accessible end of an "unknown" conduit. At the same time, a walk around the house to listen for the hiss (and the attendant dust storm) will tell you where those ducts terminate.


It doesnt bother me that much, it's just a nice to know. And possibly allow me to plan my network setup when fibre is installed.
It basically depends on how much foresight the complex architects had, what provision they made for ICT services and whether the builders left dedicated conduits in place as a result.
If there is no specific ducting available, you (or your BC) would probably have to arrange your own underground ducting like biena did here (free-standing house, Pretoria); or as was done here (Byron Tudhope, complex in Camps Bay, Cape Town) :

The installation timeline was only a week or two, ordered directly from Telkom. They had me run conduit so they didn't dig up anything. The longest delay was 2 weeks waiting for body corporate permission for conduit. I doubt they would dig up anything. I guess you would have to have that done first.
 
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Thanks, so it makes sense i think the point in the kitchen will be used for the fibre coming into the unit.
Hauwei techs were busy again here in pebble sands complex. So i hope the everything will be done soon.
 

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Two toyota quantums full of Hauwei techs were around the estate today. The wait is killing, and also i feel like a stalker, always looking out for these guys.
 

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Don't know how accurate WEBAFRICA is but,...

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Where do they get their dates from, if i may ask. Can't even get those dates on the telkom website.
 

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Where do they get their dates from, if i may ask. Can't even get those dates on the telkom website.

Telkom have the deployment dates logged, that higher ups from different ISPs can access. Most of these dates are generated by fibre deployment software, so you basically screwed if your neighbour is planned/live with fibre and you aren't (You will be considered in another phase entirely).
 
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Thanks, just crossing fingers that we all get connected soon, sooner than june i hope.
 

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Well those dates on the webafrica site, it moves up by one day everyday, so it's keeping a 3 month implementation period. I suppose it will keep doing that until dates are confirmed. As PostManPat said its software that determines the dates.
 

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Now the dates have gone, and webafrica website now says Fibre will ready within the next 3 months
 

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Spoke to a Hauwei technician yesterday working in Brooklyn, seemed clued up on the project at MKR.

He says that they are in the final stages now. All fibre has been laid so that all 3000+ units can get access. Right now they are in the process of finishing off and labelling everything properly.
 

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That is great news, I called telkom's fibre helpdesk, the agent asked me what i am currently using to access the internet, when i told her i can't get adsl, can't get LTE, using telkom mobile prepaid 3g, her response was exactly this and i quote "Move", i burst out laughing. Anyway she said put an order through and wait, which i did.
 

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Telkom have the deployment dates logged, that higher ups from different ISPs can access. Most of these dates are generated by fibre deployment software, so you basically screwed if your neighbour is planned/live with fibre and you aren't (You will be considered in another phase entirely).

Or if your neighbor has direct line of sight to you and you to him, then work out a nice deal and you both could share a link on fiber... You pay half while he pay's half... Doing that for my brother since he's like 3 houses up from me so I use Loco M2's to do the link and bam! He's got internet.
 

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Fibre is now LIVE in MKR, Telkom coverage map shows Dark purple and Fibre is enabled.
 
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