Probe launched after Durban teacher tells pupils white people 'genetically smarter'

STS

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It doesnt matter right ? if some are better at things why should we shy away from it ?
Do we say the Kenyan long distance runners are the same as all other runners ?

Okay, nice to finally settle that I'm smarter than you, remember that next time we discuss something. You can outrun or outdance me someday
 

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Would be a shame if there was some measurable way to demonstrate the differences between two people and the larger groups they are part of , would be a proper shame if the only refutation was the cries of racist !
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How pear shaped did this thread go okes.............we managed to solve racism..........we turned it into a religious debate!!!!!! What legends!
 

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Okay, nice to finally settle that I'm smarter than you, remember that next time we discuss something. You can outrun or outdance me someday
Remember within a group there may be any number of variations , i could well be smarter than the hawkins doll which would mean im pretty smart.
 

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I highly doubt so but one never knows. He has reasonably balanced opinions though.

I'll drop it, I just had experience in the Caster thread(exchange was deleted) where he accused me of being racist towards him, which is why I find his other comment amusing
 

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What I find disturbing is that there so many topics that are completely off the table in SA. How do you fix something if you can't talk honestly about it.
I believe there are only2 ways to solve a disagreement, talking or fighting. By talking I include broadly negotiate, compromise, listen with empathy, convince, debate, be truthful, respectful, ...
when all the talking fails the only option is fight to win. Unless you are happy to accept defeat, in which case you should not have wasted time talking in the first place.
We don't have a culture of fair debate in this country, we don't recognise ad hominem attacks, or straw man arguments, or appeal to authority, or appeal to ignorance, or slippery slope fallacy, ... as invalid arguments.
 

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High iq? This teacher clearly missed the Great jozi bus tour through Springs and Benoni. High iq? Nope that would be a few more kilometres east... Keep going til you hit Tokyo.

Not that Tokyo... The city.
 

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Almost zero chance he's black. He almost always agrees with the MyBroederBonders in virtually every thread.

But...but his name is Zulu...

And there is absolutely no way a person who isn't black can register on mybb with a Zulu name and pretend to black so they show their bigotry while hiding under the "I'm black too" banner

Absolutely no way
 

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Id love to hear the actual story.

I wont be surprised if this is just a situation that came up cause some students failed classes and looking for a way to get revenge. :)

Before I get slammed, Thomas Sorwell ie. A really smart and direct black man who worked his ASS off to get where he got, also commented on the lack of basic IQ of fellow black people not so much as to say, "Duh, black people are dummies, whites are smarties" but he made a good case that traditionally even in american black culture it is not such a primary focus point to learn and educate one self and they are more focused on settling down / reproducing as early as possible. He brought up some interesting points on how this could be improved/fixed over time but of course the media loved to silence him.


So my own 2 cents , it all boils down again to historical cultural differences that have not been addressed properly within black culture. White people cannot fix it for them, it needs to come from black people themself and the first step as Thomas Sorwell also said is to self reflect and understand the realities of short comings.
 
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But...but his name is Zulu...

And there is absolutely no way a person who isn't black can register on mybb with a Zulu name and pretend to black so they show their bigotry while hiding under the "I'm black too" banner

Absolutely no way
His defense once when I called him out on his own racism was "dude, I AM black, just look at my name" :laugh:
 

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The scientific evidence is there to show that there are certainly diffences between genetic groups. It's just something people don't want to hear. Nobel prize winners have had their careers ruined by bringing this up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race

People don't mind hearing it, they just don't want to hear it as an excuse to something. People here loathe BEE, yet they apply the same kind of thinking towards their own arguments -instead of judging people on an individual basis, they judge the entire group
 

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Thanks for acknowledging white privilege.

#justfreespeech
Therefore in that aspect Jewish must privilege also exist.

So when can we expect your support for Jewish quotas?

Also by that notion, black people as a group should also acknowledge that they are better at track events than white people. Therefore it is only fair that there are quotas in the winning slots of all track events to ensure equal representation.
 

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Therefore in that aspect Jewish must privilege also exist.

So when can we expect your support for Jewish quotas?

Also by that notion, black people as a group should also acknowledge that they are better at track events than white people. Therefore it is only fair that there are quotas in the winning slots of all track events to ensure equal representation.

Et tu, Brute?

So you guys are fine with forgoing merit and individuality when it suits you, only to cry about it when it isn't in your favour?
 
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