Probe launched after Durban teacher tells pupils white people 'genetically smarter'

Fulcrum29

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click-bait i think. Article mentions that she clearly used it in a context of 'To kill a mockingbird' book discussion. And that she was using K word to mention it as something similar to N word in the book (or something like that).. And, then she slided..

It is a bit OT, but according to a pupil's relative and the Gender Commission deputy chair's daughter,

https://www.heraldlive.co.za/news/2018-08-28-english-teacher-accused-of-k-word-rant/

A relative of one of the pupil’s who was in the class at the time of the outburst‚ who spoke to TimesLIVE on condition of anonymity‚ said that De Bruyn was alleged to have “gone off on a tangent” while discussing the set book.

“My sister told me they were discussing the book and she went off on a tangent trying to draw comparisons in farm killings and the content of the book.

“She was saying that there was reverse racism now because farmers were responsible for putting food on the table and now they were being subjected to attacks. She went on to say that blacks would never have been able to do half the things in the country if it wasn’t for white people‚” she said.“

She was speaking to the black girls in the class when she called them ‘these k****rs’. This happened in front of a full class and she didn’t stop. She went crazy‚” she added.“After she apologised the HOD came and told the girls that it had taken a lot to humble herself in front of them and they should move on.”

The relative said that her family was considering registering a criminal case of crimen injuria.

Parent and deputy chair of the Gender Commission Mfanozelwe Shozi said that his daughter told him that a discussion on land and race had gotten De Bruyn riled up.

“The teacher said that Zimbabwe was an amazing country when it was called Rhodesia under the white regime and that when it was taken by Africans it became a basket case‚” he said.

“She said that South Africa would have the same fate if expropriation of land without compensation was pursued…she said if South African land was returned to African people it would end up like Zimbabwe‚” he added.

He said the teacher had used the k-word‚ insisting that Africans could not run the country properly.

“She even said that in her home her parents are scared and have guns under their beds. She said that if she could meet Julius Malema she would shoot him. They [the learners] tried to stop her and she continued.

“I welcome her resignation but my worry is that these kinds of comments in a mixed classroom are divisive. Now that the criminal element has left the school‚ we can return to the business of study while the management takes action.”

I doubt the media click-baited.
 
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I would like to know who the hell authorized the launch of this probe.

We only have a limited amount of probes, ffs!
Le Soofee just wanted a free trip down to Durbs for the long weekend.
 

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Do you think the rules of boxing or rugby or soccer or fitness test for army or exams are unfair?

Those are sports, they aren't armies, royalty, certain races and religious groups, etc
 

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It is a bit OT, but according to a pupil's relative and the Gender Commission deputy chair's daughter,

https://www.heraldlive.co.za/news/2018-08-28-english-teacher-accused-of-k-word-rant/

I doubt the media click-baited.
oh - I had no idea about this. Interesting that she basically expressed same opinion that is quite common here though. She lost her job it seems.

“She was saying that there was reverse racism now because farmers were responsible for putting food on the table and now they were being subjected to attacks. She went on to say that blacks would never have been able to do half the things in the country if it wasn’t for white people‚” she said.“
 

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oh - I had no idea about this. Interesting that she basically expressed same opinion that is quite common here though. She lost her job it seems.

Was she wrong ? It also means the other half of things blacks were able to do.

You can read her statement in another way that if it is so racist that at least 50% of the things in the country is thanks to white people then would it not be racist if we said white people contributed nothing to south africa and blacks would have done all the things and better without white people ?

My bad, I forgot it is a crime to credit white people for anything positive these days, how foolish of me.

Post 94 suggest that however foolish to voice facts she wasn't wrong if you look at how black government have completely destroyed the country in last 25 years. The ANC brought forth democracy as their only plus vs endless counts of negatives. Can we even still call our country a democracy if we have the exact same dictators running the country election after election.

Afaik the whole idea of a democracy is to get new people in government with a new approach and not have 25 years of ever increasingly bad approaches by the same ruling party.

The world calls Putin a dictator cause he has been president for so long but is it really at all different having the same ANC party running the country year after year since 1994 ?

Our government is a communist dictatorship disguised as a democracy and the last 25 years clearly shows that to be the case.
 

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oh - I had no idea about this. Interesting that she basically expressed same opinion that is quite common here though. She lost her job it seems.

Do remember, that is what two third-parties are stating she said in the classroom. This happened in a time the SAHRC didn’t play around and I am quite sure that they would have gone at lengths to slap her with R 150 000 and with correctional service or some odd ‘learn your privilege’ workshop. They opened a case with the SAHRC but didn't seem to have pursued the case.

It is quite obvious as to why she resigned, circumstances like these, guilty or not, are napalm to a bridge.

All I am saying is, people can make schit up to or have comprehension issues. This is up to the probe to decide.

https://www.iol.co.za/mercury/news/parent-reports-k-word-teacher-to-sahrc-16823099

Parent reports ‘k-word’ teacher to SAHRC
A complaint has been laid with the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) against the teacher who allegedly used the k-word in a Durban school classroom.

Malusi Mhlongo, a parent of one of the pupils in the class, said he’d filed an official complaint with the commission online, as Danielle de Bruyn, the English teacher at Westville Girls High, needed to be held accountable.

In a rant during a Grade 10 class, De Bruyn allegedly used the k-word to refer to black people whom she accused of wanting to take land that was legitimately owned by whites.

Mhlongo said it was unfortunate that the Penny Sparrow and Vicky Momberg cases seemed not have been a deterrent.

“We need to be clear that this is not going to be tolerated. As parents, we can’t fold our arms and leave it to the children to do something for themselves, because they are likely to make mistakes or take rash decisions. We - through the proper channels - must hold people who do wrong to account,” said Mhlongo.

The EFF also said it would be opening a case.

“The damage she (the teacher) has done, some people may not fully appreciate. She has poisoned young minds we have left in her hands to shape These children did not grow up under apartheid, yet they are now confronted with an awkward situation and tension in the classroom. This has to be nipped in the bud.”

Mhlongo would like the pupils to be counselled, and made to understand where those calling for the teacher to be held to account, and those telling them to get over it, were coming from.

He said the teacher’s apology, without consequences, was hollow and showed a lack of understanding of how painful South Africa’s history was for black people. In a statement, De Bruyn denies having used the k-word to refer to any person or group. She said she used it merely to explain the South African equivalent of the American N-word with reference to the book, To Kill a Mockingbird.

I’m not saying that the person in the most recent case is innocent, but one is considered innocent unless proven guilty. What I am saying is that public interest can be very toxic.

It is all up to the probe.
 

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Was she wrong ? It also means the other half of things blacks were able to do.

You can read her statement in another way that if it is so racist that at least 50% of the things in the country is thanks to white people then would it not be racist if we said white people contributed nothing to south africa and blacks would have done all the things and better without white people ?

My bad, I forgot it is a crime to credit white people for anything positive these days, how foolish of me.

Post 94 suggest that however foolish to voice facts she wasn't wrong if you look at how black government have completely destroyed the country in last 25 years. The ANC brought forth democracy as their only plus vs endless counts of negatives. Can we even still call our country a democracy if we have the exact same dictators running the country election after election.

Afaik the whole idea of a democracy is to get new people in government with a new approach and not have 25 years of ever increasingly bad approaches by the same ruling party.

The world calls Putin a dictator cause he has been president for so long but is it really at all different having the same ANC party running the country year after year since 1994 ?

Our government is a communist dictatorship disguised as a democracy and the last 25 years clearly shows that to be the case.

It is not the same case, this is in regard to a similar incident which happened at the same school last year.
 

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When are we going to learn that the history of this country is so traumatic that words are assault. Using uncaring words can make your ears bleed and rip your heart apart. Those words, that I didn't hear, but my child, who never knew apartheid, reported to me, have destroyed my life and the future of my child. I demand that the full might of the Hate Speech laws be brought against you to destroy your life also.
 

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Katzavelos is even worse. I experienced those words first hand after I read on the news, social media, my friends sent me the link and I went to twitter to watch this horrendous video.
The trauma he caused is unimaginable, he deserves to rot in jail until he can learn not to say the wrong words because I can't take it anymore.
 

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When are we going to learn that the history of this country is so traumatic that words are assault. Using uncaring words can make your ears bleed and rip your heart apart. Those words, that I didn't hear, but my child, who never knew apartheid, reported to me, have destroyed my life and the future of my child. I demand that the full might of the Hate Speech laws be brought against you to destroy your life also.

Your life was destroyed by a few nasty words? SHEM....
 

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When are we going to learn that the history of this country is so traumatic that words are assault. Using uncaring words can make your ears bleed and rip your heart apart. Those words, that I didn't hear, but my child, who never knew apartheid, reported to me, have destroyed my life and the future of my child. I demand that the full might of the Hate Speech laws be brought against you to destroy your life also.
Katzavelos is even worse. I experienced those words first hand after I read on the news, social media, my friends sent me the link and I went to twitter to watch this horrendous video.
The trauma he caused is unimaginable, he deserves to rot in jail until he can learn not to say the wrong words because I can't take it anymore.
LOL

No doubt you're enjoying all the 1st world service delivery by the current regime, ....... your child enjoying the 30% education.
Probably agree with all the black racists, like the ANC cadre based in Sweden.

Don't let your racial chip on the shoulder impede your child's future.
 

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When are we going to learn that the history of this country is so traumatic that words are assault. Using uncaring words can make your ears bleed and rip your heart apart. Those words, that I didn't hear, but my child, who never knew apartheid, reported to me, have destroyed my life and the future of my child. I demand that the full might of the Hate Speech laws be brought against you to destroy your life also.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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Katzavelos is even worse. I experienced those words first hand after I read on the news, social media, my friends sent me the link and I went to twitter to watch this horrendous video.
The trauma he caused is unimaginable, he deserves to rot in jail until he can learn not to say the wrong words because I can't take it anymore.

LMAO
I watched the video, and went on with my life.
 

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When are we going to learn that the history of this country is so traumatic that words are assault. Using uncaring words can make your ears bleed and rip your heart apart. Those words, that I didn't hear, but my child, who never knew apartheid, reported to me, have destroyed my life and the future of my child. I demand that the full might of the Hate Speech laws be brought against you to destroy your life also.
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 

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I think he/she should remove the "techno" part in the username. :laugh:
 

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In my night school class there was white boy in the class and he did get the baddest marks and he was kuk dom i think he did also fail so its a lie to say white ppl are more clever then black ppl coz we had a black girl who did get the most points and the kallits did also do ok thank you

And there you go and prove the point.
 

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I would like to know who the hell authorized the launch of this probe.

We only have a limited amount of probes, ffs!

Well, they sent the cause-of-lightning probe out how long ago now and nothing has returned. I think it's safe to assume it was probably struck by lightning.

So that's a -1 to the already finite probe inventory.
 
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