Property : What is Off-Plan and How is the Randpark Ridge area

Pho3nix

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Hi all,

Just a couple questions as per the thread title. I have done some research but still a little fuzzy on the details here.
If anyone could please explain the benefits of buying a off-plan property like I'm 5 years old it would be appreciated :eek:

Also some thoughts on the Randpark Ridge area from all the JHB'ers :)
 

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Off plan is when you buy the place but it does not exist yet so you have to wait for it to be built.
You then usually have a budget at certain shops to spend on finishing like tiles,carpets,taps etc etc.
So its good to inspect previous places built by the builder and find out what you budget is like and have a look if you can get the finishing you like for that budget. A lot of them have a finished unit you can look at as most people struggle to visualize the place from the plans.
 

Pho3nix

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Off plan is when you buy the place but it does not exist yet so you have to wait for it to be built.
You then usually have a budget at certain shops to spend on finishing like tiles,carpets,taps etc etc.
So its good to inspect previous places built by the builder and find out what you budget is like and have a look if you can get the finishing you like for that budget. A lot of them have a finished unit you can look at as most people struggle to visualize the place from the plans.

Thank you kind sir.
 

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Another nice thing is that you save on transfer fees which helps, especially if it's your first purchase and you're looking to get a bond.
 

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Randpark ridge is a nice enough area. Traffic can be a pain depending on where you are driving to.
I have heard crime is on the rise there (but that could be said of most places I suppose)

Nice local shops and schools
 

Mike Hoxbig

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Hi all,

Just a couple questions as per the thread title. I have done some research but still a little fuzzy on the details here.
If anyone could please explain the benefits of buying a off-plan property like I'm 5 years old it would be appreciated :eek:

Also some thoughts on the Randpark Ridge area from all the JHB'ers :)
Lol why don't you just ask me bitch... :p

It's a new property still being built. Buying from the developer means that you will save on transfer duties and bond registration fees, which can total R10k+. That developer is reputable, I wouldn't consider buying if they weren't... ;)
 

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Lol why don't you just ask me bitch... :p

It's a new property still being built. Buying from the developer means that you will save on transfer duties and bond registration fees, which can total R10k+. That developer is reputable, I wouldn't consider buying if they weren't... ;)

Lol your just looking for a new neighbour :p
 

Pho3nix

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Another nice thing is that you save on transfer fees which helps, especially if it's your first purchase and you're looking to get a bond.

Even better :)

Randpark ridge is a nice enough area. Traffic can be a pain depending on where you are driving to.
I have heard crime is on the rise there (but that could be said of most places I suppose)

Nice local shops and schools

Thanks for the feedback :)
 

Pho3nix

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Another nice thing is that you save on transfer fees which helps, especially if it's your first purchase and you're looking to get a bond.

Even better :)

Randpark ridge is a nice enough area. Traffic can be a pain depending on where you are driving to.
I have heard crime is on the rise there (but that could be said of most places I suppose)

Nice local shops and schools

Thanks for the feedback :)
 

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Traffic can be a pain depending on where you are driving to.

Yea - where you driving to exactly?


I've lived in 4 parts of it - primary school area, opposite Randridge Mall, near Trinity and closer to Rock Cottage. If you need to use the N1 and go down Beyers it was horrible
 

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Yea - where you driving to exactly?


I've lived in 4 parts of it - primary school area, opposite Randridge Mall, near Trinity and closer to Rock Cottage. If you need to use the N1 and go down Beyers it was horrible

This will probably be more of a property to rent out but if I did live there I'd be driving down Beyers to the CBD in town.
 

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This will probably be more of a property to rent out but if I did live there I'd be driving down Beyers to the CBD in town.

20-45 minutes depending on traffic. There's are also alternate routes through Hendrick Potgieter and Ontdekkers that you can take...
 

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Randpark Ridge is a nice area as long as you're not too screwed over by the traffic. Great schools, shops, community policing, relatively safe. Lived there for 16 years, no complaints apart from the traffic at times (I used to go down Beyers and take the N1 through to Centurion, that was horrid).
 

Pho3nix

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20-45 minutes depending on traffic. There's are also alternate routes through Hendrick Potgieter and Ontdekkers that you can take...
Forgot your even going in the same direction as me :p
/stalker detected
Randpark Ridge is a nice area as long as you're not too screwed over by the traffic. Great schools, shops, community policing, relatively safe. Lived there for 16 years, no complaints apart from the traffic at times (I used to go down Beyers and take the N1 through to Centurion, that was horrid).
Thanks for the info.
 

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Yea - where you driving to exactly?


I've lived in 4 parts of it - primary school area, opposite Randridge Mall, near Trinity and closer to Rock Cottage. If you need to use the N1 and go down Beyers it was horrible

I actually stay in sundowner at moment (moving in 3 weeks though!)
You are 100% right, anything down beyers towards highway is awful between 6:30 and 8:45
 

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Please please do your homework on the developer. I bought an off plan unit and the developers were a bit dodgey. They had done previous developments but just close one company down and open another each time to avoid prosecution if anything goes amiss.

Buy through trusted developers who do quality work like Renico. Their sectional titles are everywhere and although you pay an extra R50k-R100k to what similar places are asking - the headaches afterwards would be minimal.

Do your homework on the type of materials used. Our dev put dry walling between bathrooms and bedrooms in some units which quickly absorbed water and went moldy which is a huge health risk. They also had to rewire half of my unit. Check everything!!! Every little nook of each window for cracking etc - you will be very surprised where the issues come up.

Also - always install security bars, security gates and an alarm system BEFORE moving anything else in. The builders and thieves know and watch when you move in and come rob you blind. I managed to avoid this by doing my security beforehand. 25 other units in the complex I bought were all cleared out in one night. Budget at least 15k for your security. It cost me R15k for security bars and 2 security gates and then My father and I bought and installed an alarm system ourselves with motion sensors and magnetic sensors for windows and doors.

Test everything when you take ownership, and I mean EVERYTHING. Water faucets, cupboards, hinges, roller cupboards, sinks, baths, showers, all the plugs (inside and out), check for chipped tiles, bad carpeting, test all the windows work properly, no gaps in window installations, check the quality of painting. Check that all baisins etc drain properly. Run the water for a while to check that there arent any sewer blocks - if there are the bath or sink will fill up after a while of running them. Check all the lights work inside and outside. Also important: spray the entire outside of the unit with a hose, especially the windows! This way you can check for leaks before the rains come.

Get the developer to draw out a plan of where the water pipes run. This way if you want to put up extra fixtures you will know where to drill. I used a pipe finder but it only picks up copper piping so I thought all was fine and drilled straight into the water pipe. Most devs use plastic piping nowadays.

Also check the DB board. Test every item on the board individually! Turn all switches off and and raise each one at a time and make sure it is delivering power only to where it says it is. My DB board items were incorrect and some powered more plugs then they were supposed to. Also, turn the geyser switch off and see if you still have hot water in 2 days time. The electrician bypassed my geyser switch on the DB board completely. I found a product useful for this testing called The Owl - google it. It was invaluable proving that the meter they installed was faulty and that they were charging me too much.

MOST IMPORTANT: If you do decide to buy off plan make a point of becoming a trustee ASAP, even if it's just for the first year. As soon as 20% (i think it is that amount) of the entire count of owners has moved into the complex, have an Inaugural meeting and get to be a trustee. From there try your best to get the finances sorted asap. The devs are usually dodgey on this and can cause huge issues. Anyone going this route is welcome to contact me via PM and I will give them details on what to look out for. When I bought my unit I had no idea what was involved with being a trustee or what to look out for but now I know and wish I knew before. I can give some very valuable advice and things to look out for.

ALSO: When doing the Inaugural meeting DO NOT take handover of the current managing agents contract until a later date. In my case we were lucky we didnt do this and made it easy to remove the managing agent that was useless at their duties and was running the complex at a loss. The managing agent will have a contract with the developer but the trustees and body corporate are in no way forced to receive this contract. I have a very cheap and reliable managing agent in the West Rand area if anyone needs that managed to to get our complex from red to black in a matter of months.
 
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Pho3nix

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Please please do your homework on the developer. I bought an off plan unit and the developers were a bit dodgey. They had done previous developments but just close one company down and open another each time to avoid prosecution if anything goes amiss.

Buy through trusted developers who do quality work like Renico. Their sectional titles are everywhere and although you pay an extra R50k-R100k to what similar places are asking - the headaches afterwards would be minimal.

Do your homework on the type of materials used. Our dev put dry walling between bathrooms and bedrooms in some units which quickly absorbed water and went moldy which is a huge health risk. They also had to rewire half of my unit. Check everything!!! Every little nook of each window for cracking etc - you will be very surprised where the issues come up.

Also - always install security bars, security gates and an alarm system BEFORE moving anything else in. The builders and thieves know and watch when you move in and come rob you blind. I managed to avoid this by doing my security beforehand. 25 other units in the complex I bought were all cleared out in one night. Budget at least 15k for your security. It cost me R15k for security bars and 2 security gates and then My father and I bought and installed an alarm system ourselves with motion sensors and magnetic sensors for windows and doors.

Test everything when you take ownership, and I mean EVERYTHING. Water faucets, cupboards, hinges, roller cupboards, sinks, baths, showers, all the plugs (inside and out), check for chipped tiles, bad carpeting, test all the windows work properly, no gaps in window installations, check the quality of painting. Check that all baisins etc drain properly. Run the water for a while to check that there arent any sewer blocks - if there are the bath or sink will fill up after a while of running them. Check all the lights work inside and outside. Also important: spray the entire outside of the unit with a hose, especially the windows! This way you can check for leaks before the rains come.

Get the developer to draw out a plan of where the water pipes run. This way if you want to put up extra fixtures you will know where to drill. I used a pipe finder but it only picks up copper piping so I thought all was fine and drilled straight into the water pipe. Most devs use plastic piping nowadays.

Also check the DB board. Test every item on the board individually! Turn all switches off and and raise each one at a time and make sure it is delivering power only to where it says it is. My DB board items were incorrect and some powered more plugs then they were supposed to. Also, turn the geyser switch off and see if you still have hot water in 2 days time. The electrician bypassed my geyser switch on the DB board completely. I found a product useful for this testing called The Owl - google it. It was invaluable proving that the meter they installed was faulty and that they were charging me too much.

MOST IMPORTANT: If you do decide to buy off plan make a point of becoming a trustee ASAP, even if it's just for the first year. As soon as 20% (i think it is that amount) of the entire count of owners has moved into the complex, have an Inaugural meeting and get to be a trustee. From there try your best to get the finances sorted asap. The devs are usually dodgey on this and can cause huge issues. Anyone going this route is welcome to contact me via PM and I will give them details on what to look out for. When I bought my unit I had no idea what was involved with being a trustee or what to look out for but now I know and wish I knew before. I can give some very valuable advice and things to look out for.

ALSO: When doing the Inaugural meeting DO NOT take handover of the current managing agents contract until a later date. In my case we were lucky we didnt do this and made it easy to remove the managing agent that was useless at their duties and was running the complex at a loss. The managing agent will have a contract with the developer but the trustees and body corporate are in no way forced to receive this contract. I have a very cheap and reliable managing agent in the West Rand area if anyone needs that managed to to get our complex from red to black in a matter of months.

A lot to think about.
Thanks for the detailed explanation :). Seems the company building is Renico, didn't get an opportunity to go to the open house this passed weekend but have made an appointment with the agent to show me one of the finished apartments.

Will probably post more questions as they come up, so it can help anyone else going through the same thing.
 
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