Prove I am a CIA spy: Madonsela


Honorary Master
Apr 19, 2005
Just watch it, Kebby's spokesperson will say that he was "misunderstood" or "quoted out of context" - as usual...


Resident Rodent
Aug 22, 2006
Just watch it, Kebby's spokesperson will say that he was "misunderstood" or "quoted out of context" - as usual...
"When he said CIA he didn't mean actual CIA but rather that she is like a spy deceiving people and working for her dark masters and their agenda to undermine the ANC"


Executive Member
Oct 11, 2012
I think Kebby is suffering from withdrawal symptoms waiting for Homeland Season 4..


Executive Member
Jan 22, 2012
Only a CIA spy would deny being a CIA spy, thus she is a CIA spy!

PROVEN like a PD Boss!


Expert Member
Jan 29, 2009
The best part of this is Kebby Metsoe's background in MK as posted by Dlamaqhinga here
Actual article link:
Maphatsoe, you may recall, has been one of the most vocal public protectors of President Jacob Zuma ever since “Butternut Head”, as he is now affectionately called by some inside the ANC, started to feel the famous Mbeki pinch in the early part of the 21st century.

Maphatsoe has entered public discourse many times, paper pistol blazing: he vehemently rejected the rape and corruption charges levelled against Zuma; he rebuffed challenges to the president’s re-election at the 2012 ANC national conference in Manguang; and during the same year he repeatedly called for Malema to be expelled from the ANC. To back him up, the KwaZulu-Natal region of MKMVA warned Malema that “as former soldiers we will not sit back and allow attacks on Zuma” (aka “we will really ****ing kill for Zuma”). And earlier this year Maphatsoe condemned a proper MK veteran, Ronnie Kasrils, for his “Vote No” election statements.

So on August 21, when Malema and his fellow fighters in the EFF banged on the parliamentary tables to demand that Zuma “pay back the Nkandla money”, it was somehow predictable that Maphatsoe would be at the frontline of those defending the president.

Addressing MKMVA’s elective conference on August 25, he declared: “What we are saying, comrades, is that the MK manifesto of 1961 is still relevant even today because it says there will come a time of any nation where there remains only two choices: submit or fight. That time has now come to South Africa, we shall not submit, we will fight back with anything at our disposal in defence of our people, our future and our freedom.”

Drawing on his experience as a trained guerilla, Maphatsoe clearly saw the EFF as a seditious threat to national security, and was not prepared to submit. He wanted to fight.

But can he fight? Sadly, if Juju is to be believed, the man who has headed MKMVA for the past seven years has done a much better job fighting for “Butternut Head” than he did fighting apartheid.

Malema gave his own interpretation of Maphatsoe’s military history as follows (courtesy of the EFF’s parliamentary Twitter handle, @effparliament) on August 28:

“The MKVA and the ANC have been beating war drums. The chairperson of MKVA was in parliament on Thursday,” he said. “If he has a black belt as he claims, why didn’t he use it? He leaves and goes somewhere else to make noise.

“But there is nothing they can do. One of you must ask Kebby Maphatsoe how he lost his hand … he was running away from the MK camps. He went AWOL. Kebby was running into a dangerous farm of wild animals. The police had to shoot him to save him from wild and dangerous animals.

“We’re not scared of him … we’re not threatened by people who spent time in MK camps doing the cooking.”

For once, Twitter disappointed. Although Malema’s brief history lesson was crying out for a #onearmedbandit hashtag, his comments on Maphatsoe’s credentials died a quick death.

But Malema is not the first to suggest that Maphatsoe’s combat history is less than illustrious. I’ve heard the “deserter” accusation from a number of people who did fight in Angola. Some of them were on the grass with us on that day in December 2008, and others confirmed the Malema version in conversations with me this week.

Maphatsoe, never one to shy away from verbal combat, has been uncharacteristically quiet on the matter, and his CV talks only of his training, not his fighting – an example, from “During the apartheid years, he went to exile and became a trained Political Commissar of MK; he received further training in Angola, and in the Soviet Union and was also exiled in Uganda before returning to South Africa.”

And, given that there is still no official detailed history of MK, we will probably never know the truth beyond what was presented to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

What we do know, though, is that in addition to the questions raised by Malema and others, the leader of the military veterans association has had his remaining hand in the till on more than one occasion.

As the Mail & Guardian reported in 2012, in an article headed “Leading MK vets ’looted millions’”: “The top brass of MKMVA turned [its] investment holdings into their personal piggy bank, using funds to pay for jewellery, spa treatments and school drama lessons, and to withdraw large sums of cash before Christmas.

“A forensic report … by auditing firm SizweNtsalubaGobodo directly fingers former association treasurer Dumisani Khoza, former chairperson Deacon Mathe, current treasurer Johannes ‘Sparks’ Motseki and current chairperson Kebby Maphatsoe.

“It alleges that they helped themselves to R5.4-million, almost half of all the money coming into two accounts that the auditors scrutinised.”

Just as he may have escaped combat, Maphatsoe also seems to have escaped answering questions about what happened to the money in MKMVA’s bank account – or having to “pay back the money” that was meant to provide a safety net for MK veterans who use their military pensions to buy boots.

He’s also managed to elude capture and interrogation over his role in the controversial Gold Fields South Deep empowerment deal, where he was one of three former MK beneficiaries in a multibillion-rand deal.

One armed bandit indeed…

But there’s a more serious question that has to be asked given Maphatsoe’s declaration last week that “we shall not submit, we will fight back”.

That question is, of course, what the role and character – or even the status – of MK should be in post-apartheid South Africa.

One person who has posed that question recently is Siphiwe Nyanda, who fought in the ANC underground since 1975. Maphatsoe was 12 at the time – judging by his official CV (that’s before he even joined Cosas). “Gebuza”, as Nyanda is still known, headed the banned organisation’s regional command in Swaziland in the early 1980s and served on MK’s military committee until he infiltrated South Africa in 1988 as part of Operation Vula.

Now Nyanda may not have been South Africa’s favourite communications minister or chief of the SA National Defence Force, but his soldier’s pedigree – and his knowledge of MK – is hard to question.

He had this to say about MKMVA in 2012: “The notion advanced by some leaders of the military veterans association that Jacob Zuma is a commander-chief of the MKMVA is a dangerous illusion…

“The ANC has no army,” he wrote in the Sunday Times. “The president of the ANC does not possess a private army. To style MKMVA as a security or enforcement arm of the ANC is wrong. It has no such mandate. No decision of any ANC structure or even its own constitution gives MKMVA such a role.”

Maphatsoe’s trigger-happy mouth (as opposed to his missing trigger finger) couldn’t resist the bait, and his response to Nyanda days later was predictably cutting: “All these comments are about Mangaung [a reference to the ANC national conference in December 2012]. MKMVA has been vocal about the retention of the president. This is an attack against President Zuma in another way.”

He went on: “[Many] MK members are being buried in a pathetic way … they are people who were dismissed dishonourably in [Nyanda's] presence [at the SANDF]. Nyanda must also say what did he do for MK members when he was chief of the SANDF,” he said.

And then, as his punchline, Maphatsoe submitted a deeply ironic accusation: “He never fought for us…”

Throwing sand in the face of people who fought for freedom while you were still in short pants should, in my view, not be encouraged. But if you’re going to do it, at least have a plausible explanation for why you can’t throw properly.


Honorary Master
Apr 19, 2005
Madonsela has come under attack from the ANC and some alliance structures ever since sending a letter to President Jacob Zuma last month asking him for details of when he would respond to recommendations in her report on the upgrades at his home at Nkandla, in KwaZulu-Natal.

"She thinks she is God," Maphatsoe said on Monday.

"It is clear she wants the head of the president. She's no longer playing the ball, she's playing the person."

He claimed Madonsela was running a parallel government and called on her to come to her senses.

"Her actions leave us with no choice but to say her actions are that of enemy agents."

Typical brainwashed ****. Quite the contrary. She is the best thing that happened to this country. The rest, well, quite the opposite.