PS5 or XBox Series X

[WaRLoRd ZA]

Hmm. Engaging my blatant PS fanboy glasses, this looks very much like Phil is walking back the narrative. From having the most powerful (12 TF's I tell you) machine that has ray tracing and can play 4K and 8K at oodles of framerates, it's now about gamers having choice and rather wanting "optimal" settings.

I wonder if it's because they know the console wont beat the PS5 in upcoming comparisons? Just speculation, before a number of panties are destroyed in frantic knotting thereof.

(Bar the few mistakes the article had in it)

I believe it stems from the fact MS knew they had to compete on two fronts. Performance and Price.

They started by developing the "Most powerful console " On paper it's definitely the more capable machine. That's been put to bed. But we're all waiting on next gen gameplay from both consoles before we or anyone can judge which is truly better performance wise. But as it stands the X has a clear advantage unless DF can prove otherwise with analysis. (I'm excited)

Then they went and dropped a $299 next gen console.
Basically having the cheapest and smallest next gen console and the "most powerful" (until disproved) console. So them focusing on CHOICE (Console,PC,Mobile) for the gamer coupled with solid value with All Access/GP/Xcloud is them just rounding off a tactic that's almost impossible to criticize.

I won't be surprised if GP subs hit 30 million next year.
MS is playing the long game. And are playing on a different field than Sony at this point.

Sony are currently stuck in the middle. They don't have the cheapest or the most powerful console. The two biggest factors that the PS4 had during launch over the Xbox One is now gone.

My opinion.

 

[AlphaJohn]

(Bar the few mistakes the article had in it)

I believe it stems from the fact MS knew they had to compete on two fronts. Performance and Price.

They started by developing the "Most powerful console " On paper it's definitely the more capable machine. That's been put to bed. But we're all waiting on next gen gameplay from both consoles before we or anyone can judge which is truly better performance wise. But as it stands the X has a clear advantage unless DF can prove otherwise with analysis. (I'm excited)

Then they went and dropped a $299 next gen console.
Basically having the cheapest and smallest next gen console and the "most powerful" (until disproved) console. So them focusing on CHOICE (Console,PC,Mobile) for the gamer coupled with solid value with All Access/GP/Xcloud is them just rounding off a tactic that's almost impossible to criticize.

I won't be surprised if GP subs hit 30 million next year.
MS is playing the long game. And are playing on a different field than Sony at this point.

Sony are currently stuck in the middle. They don't have the cheapest or the most powerful console. The two biggest factors that the PS4 had during launch over the Xbox One is now gone.

My opinion.

RE Long game:
Also I know I mock the TV TV TV TV 2013 launch but honestly a lot of those functions is what I like about the console. Esp the fact that it can be used instead of a Smart TV/Media PC for YouTube/Netflix/Kodi and so on and will work great now that I am downgraded to the TV in the Bedroom

 

[SeRpEnT]

Sony has a really strong Audio division, and at the moment it looks like the PS5 tempest audio could very well be better than Dolby Atmos, especially if their HRTF pans out.

From TomsGuide:
"
Cerny has said the PS5 will be able to deliver 3D sound through your TV’s audio setup. But to get the best out of it it looks like you’ll need a Pulse 3D wireless headset. That’s Sony's official PS5 gaming headphones that are “fine-tuned” for 3D audio.
We can expect other Sony devices, such as its Bravia TV range and home cinema systems to come with Tempest Engine compatibility. But when the PS5 launches, predicted to be November time, the only likely way to get access to 3D audio in all its glory is through the Pulse 3D wireless headset."

$ony.

Edit: And yes, on Xbox you unfortunately also have to pay for the once-off Dolby Atmos license fee. The very capable MS Windows Sonic Spatial 3d audio alternative is off course free and works with any headphones, not just special high end "certified" ones....

 

[Splinter]

Currys PC World’s new research reveals that nine in ten (88%) of existing PlayStation owners, and 68% of existing Xbox owners have, or are considering, pre-ordering the latest consoles, only reinforcing the excitement around these launches.

“However, when it comes to loyalty, the research suggests that Xbox One owners may be switching sides, with over 51% stating they are considering purchasing the PS5, whereas just 22% of PlayStation owners would consider purchasing the Xbox Series S or X.

PS5 pre-order: UK retailer reveals PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X news

PS5 pre-order options are non-existent right now and one UK retailer has provided a big update on how things are going between the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Splinter]

From TomsGuide:
"
Cerny has said the PS5 will be able to deliver 3D sound through your TV’s audio setup. But to get the best out of it it looks like you’ll need a Pulse 3D wireless headset. That’s Sony's official PS5 gaming headphones that are “fine-tuned” for 3D audio.
We can expect other Sony devices, such as its Bravia TV range and home cinema systems to come with Tempest Engine compatibility. But when the PS5 launches, predicted to be November time, the only likely way to get access to 3D audio in all its glory is through the Pulse 3D wireless headset."

$ony.

Edit: And yes, on Xbox you unfortunately also have to pay for the once-off Dolby Atmos license fee. The very capable MS sound 3D version is offcourse free and works with any headphones, not just special high end "certified" ones....

Thanks, but I already pre-ordered mine.

 

[SeRpEnT]

Thanks, but I already pre-ordered mine.

Yeah i'm jealous. LOL. No hate m8te.
Will have to wait until I can afford my XB. Bleh.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

From TomsGuide:
"
Cerny has said the PS5 will be able to deliver 3D sound through your TV’s audio setup. But to get the best out of it it looks like you’ll need a Pulse 3D wireless headset. That’s Sony's official PS5 gaming headphones that are “fine-tuned” for 3D audio.
We can expect other Sony devices, such as its Bravia TV range and home cinema systems to come with Tempest Engine compatibility. But when the PS5 launches, predicted to be November time, the only likely way to get access to 3D audio in all its glory is through the Pulse 3D wireless headset."

$ony.

Edit: And yes, on Xbox you unfortunately also have to pay for the once-off Dolby Atmos license fee. The very capable MS Windows Sonic Spatial 3d audio alternative is off course free and works with any headphones, not just special high end "certified" ones....

It will also work with normal headphones, no need to buy their headphones.
They are also working to get it working well with speakers, but there are obviously many more variables.

 

[Splinter]

From TomsGuide:
"
Cerny has said the PS5 will be able to deliver 3D sound through your TV’s audio setup. But to get the best out of it it looks like you’ll need a Pulse 3D wireless headset. That’s Sony's official PS5 gaming headphones that are “fine-tuned” for 3D audio.
We can expect other Sony devices, such as its Bravia TV range and home cinema systems to come with Tempest Engine compatibility. But when the PS5 launches, predicted to be November time, the only likely way to get access to 3D audio in all its glory is through the Pulse 3D wireless headset."

$ony.

Edit: And yes, on Xbox you unfortunately also have to pay for the once-off Dolby Atmos license fee. The very capable MS Windows Sonic Spatial 3d audio alternative is off course free and works with any headphones, not just special high end "certified" ones....

A bit misleading old chap.

While it does indeed need "specially tuned" headsets to get the best out of it, you make it sound like it will not be worthwhile otherwise. I don't think that is the case, though future test will reveal the truth, no doubt.

PS5 3D audio: what is it? How do you get it?

Game-changing 3D audio?

www.whathifi.com

But while the Pulse 3D headset could be the only wireless headset to fully support PS5 3D audio in the early days, it's our understanding that you'll also be able to get the effect by plugging standard, wired headphones into the PS5 DualSense controller.

But the fact remains, to get the best out of 3D audio you'll need specially-tuned hardware that has been configured to work hand-in-hand with Tempest 3D AudioTech.

 

[SeRpEnT]

Currys PC World’s new research reveals that nine in ten (88%) of existing PlayStation owners, and 68% of existing Xbox owners have, or are considering, pre-ordering the latest consoles, only reinforcing the excitement around these launches.

“However, when it comes to loyalty, the research suggests that Xbox One owners may be switching sides, with over 51% stating they are considering purchasing the PS5, whereas just 22% of PlayStation owners would consider purchasing the Xbox Series S or X.

PS5 pre-order: UK retailer reveals PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X news

PS5 pre-order options are non-existent right now and one UK retailer has provided a big update on how things are going between the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.

www.express.co.uk

Currys PC World....

 

[Splinter]

Currys PC World....

Hey, it comes up in top stories section in Google. Blame them

 

[RazedInBlack]

Yeah i'm jealous. LOL. No hate m8te.
Will have to wait until I can afford my XB. Bleh.

Maybe stick to PS4/XBox One threads then . . . .

 

[RazedInBlack]

Currys PC World’s new research reveals that nine in ten (88%) of existing PlayStation owners, and 68% of existing Xbox owners have, or are considering, pre-ordering the latest consoles, only reinforcing the excitement around these launches.

“However, when it comes to loyalty, the research suggests that Xbox One owners may be switching sides, with over 51% stating they are considering purchasing the PS5, whereas just 22% of PlayStation owners would consider purchasing the Xbox Series S or X.

PS5 pre-order: UK retailer reveals PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X news

PS5 pre-order options are non-existent right now and one UK retailer has provided a big update on how things are going between the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.

www.express.co.uk

Currys PC World revealed today that the PlayStation 5 has recorded nearly 90,000 more pre-registrations than Xbox for the pre-order.

 

[SeRpEnT]

Maybe stick to PS4/XBox One threads then . . . .

Tsek! I also have dreams ekse!

 

[AlphaJohn]

Ready, go fight

Have to say it brings home my point, going for Xbox cause of affordability and don't give a crap about exclusive... I mean I am playing Borderlands 3 now for the 1st time, just over a year after launch....

 

[Splinter]

(Bar the few mistakes the article had in it)

I believe it stems from the fact MS knew they had to compete on two fronts. Performance and Price.

They started by developing the "Most powerful console " On paper it's definitely the more capable machine. That's been put to bed. But we're all waiting on next gen gameplay from both consoles before we or anyone can judge which is truly better performance wise. But as it stands the X has a clear advantage unless DF can prove otherwise with analysis. (I'm excited)

Then they went and dropped a $299 next gen console.
Basically having the cheapest and smallest next gen console and the "most powerful" (until disproved) console. So them focusing on CHOICE (Console,PC,Mobile) for the gamer coupled with solid value with All Access/GP/Xcloud is them just rounding off a tactic that's almost impossible to criticize.

I won't be surprised if GP subs hit 30 million next year.
MS is playing the long game. And are playing on a different field than Sony at this point.

Sony are currently stuck in the middle. They don't have the cheapest or the most powerful console. The two biggest factors that the PS4 had during launch over the Xbox One is now gone.

My opinion.

Hey, it's all about opinions at the moment.

So, you mention the advantages at launch of the "previous" generation (I'm going to call the PS5 and the Xbox Series the "current" generation for the purposes of this discussion.

Let's describe the likely "biggest factors" that the PS5 has during this launch. A huge, and loyal, fan base compared to the Xbone. Almost total agreement that Sony had the best exclusives previously (that you can still play now?) and has the best current exclusives, and also coming sooner than any the XSeries has.

Then, likely the better controller, and the better audio tech. And, I believe, but yet to be proved, at least the equivalent gaming performance of the "most powerful console on paper".

And all this at only $100 dollars more than the XSeries S, which has a third of the power of the Xseries X (comparing digital only editions with each other).

The only thing Xbox has going for it right now is GP. Where MS must be bleeding billions of dollars to enable this to the consumer.

Sony cannot compete with MS almost literally giving games away for free. But, like I've said before, I would rather play the best games, on the best platform. Maybe because I can (here in SA). But, I think, most gamers across the world would like to do so as well.

 

[Splinter]

Have to say it brings home my point, going for Xbox cause of affordability and don't give a crap about exclusive... I mean I am playing Borderlands 3 now for the 1st time, just over a year after launch....

Hey, welcome to Borderlands 3 - I absolutely love this game. Having said that, you seem to think "exclusives" are some sort of bad word. They just mean other awesome games that you could play. I'm sorry if you have affordability issues, but gaming is not a cheap pastime these days. Mostly.

 

[Splinter]

Ready, go fight

Have to say it brings home my point, going for Xbox cause of affordability and don't give a crap about exclusive... I mean I am playing Borderlands 3 now for the 1st time, just over a year after launch....

I watched to 5:08. This is not an honest comparison. First, he mentions Halo Infinite in comparisons to Sony exclusives that will be available. Which is obviously a total load of disinformation. Then mentioning only sort of giving the PS5 the edge in the I/O input. And blah blah blah.

Edit: watching more - a bit of a fib about backwards compatibility (you will be able to play old games in 4K) and then declaring the controllers a tie!

Double edit: so the dude says he will get a PS5 rather - but that's because he is a PC dude, as far as I can see.

At the end of the day, all this means is that console gamers should go for the PS5; PC gamers with GP should also go for the PS5.

 

[AdrianH]

1) Grown men arguing about gaming consoles, it's a ****** embarrassment to men all over.

2) Tempest, Atmos, Sonic audio, very few are going to pick up much difference at the end of the day.

3) Both consoles will push the FPS and other graphical elements to the max. Putting the same game side by side without any indicators which game is on which console, most if not all probably wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

4) Sony and MS doesn't give a **** about you, me, or any other person on this on thread. You don't need to pledge your loyalty to them.

5) I presume anybody reading this is a gamer. FFS, support each other's hobby, who cares on what play your hobby on. Let people spend their money on what they want.

 

[AlphaJohn]

Hey, welcome to Borderlands 3 - I absolutely love this game. Having said that, you seem to think "exclusives" are some sort of bad word. They just mean other awesome games that you could play. I'm sorry if you have affordability issues, but gaming is not a cheap pastime these days. Mostly.

It is, if you think otherwise you should get yourself checked out.

Exclusives (Fake walls) is the one reason I would support people that pirate. Be it Netflix fake walls, or regional stagnated releases of TV/Music/Vedio. They are there to milk the consumer and only have greedy f**kheads pockets in mind, not yours or mine.

Wait till Nintendo/Apple/Microsoft buy that game your really wanna play (Say for example Cyberpunk 2077) and hold it at ransom for R15K.. then we talk again.

As for your second point "affordability issues" is more like I would rather "waste" money on other things. I can go out now and buy a PS5 cash, not a card, pure cash, but why? I only game max 2 days a week. We do spend about R5k a month on Lego, something that give us a lot more value for money than a console ever will.

Edit:

Exclusives Are Bad For Everyone

Now more than ever, we should put a stop to this practice and embrace inclusivity over exclusivity.

www.thegamer.com

Edit: Even a better read:

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Newegg offers customers an awesome experience shopping for computers, hardware, electronics, networking solutions, and more. Upgrade your shopping experience today!

gamecrate.com

 

[Genisys]

1) Grown men arguing about gaming consoles, it's a ****** embarrassment to men all over.

2) Tempest, Atmos, Sonic audio, very few are going to pick up much difference at the end of the day.

3) Both consoles will push the FPS and other graphical elements to the max. Putting the same game side by side without any indicators which game is on which console, most if not all probably wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

4) Sony and MS doesn't give a **** about you, me, or any other person on this on thread. You don't need to pledge your loyalty to them.

5) I presume anybody reading this is a gamer. FFS, support each other's hobby, who cares on what play your hobby on. Let people spend their money on what they want.

This thread has gone full circle a while ago, its embarrassing.