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hey you want Telkom to address their oversupply of LTE? Switch your Telkom router to 3G manual when you're experiencing extreme congestion on LTE, works beautifully and will pi** off the mobile users so much that T will be forced to expedite solutions.
 
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That works perfectly, except when the 3G is also congested, which is most of the time when Lte is slow....
 
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If it is on the same tower then you are wasting your time and energy as it will be using the same backhaul links...
 
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MickeyD said:
If it is on the same tower then you are wasting your time and energy as it will be using the same backhaul links...
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Yup. Most congestion at the moment is on the backhauls available, not in the base station itself .....
 
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Can become an interesting debate.

Wonder how the backhauls are provided these days? Still a bunch of individual 2 Mbps links? STM1's? or, have they moved on to GE links?

MW links? Fibre links?

The one down the road from me has finally been cut over on to a fibre feed, which presumably is on a GE ring network.

The MTN one on the other hand is a mess of 2 Mbps microwave links.
 
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daniellgr said:
Can become an interesting debate.

Wonder how the backhauls are provided these days? Still a bunch of individual 2 Mbps links? STM1's? or, have they moved on to GE links?

MW links? Fibre links?

The one down the road from me has finally been cut over on to a fibre feed, which presumably is on a GE ring network.

The MTN one on the other hand is a mess of 2 Mbps microwave links.
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If there is LTE at a site then there is most definitely metro-ethernet (fibre) links to that site.
 
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If there is LTE at a site then there is most definitely metro-ethernet (fibre) links to that site.
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Metro Ethernet? Would have not thought that would be a good choice, cost effective yes but long term performance??
 
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MickeyD said:
If it is on the same tower then you are wasting your time and energy as it will be using the same backhaul links...
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I have tried this with my cellphone, on Telkom LTE I get 0.5mbps. If i force my cellphone to use 3G i get 7 - 8 Mbps.

Not sure if my phone connects to a different tower when I force it to use 3G.
 
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Lament said:
I have tried this with my cellphone, on Telkom LTE I get 0.5mbps. If i force my cellphone to use 3G i get 7 - 8 Mbps.

Not sure if my phone connects to a different tower when I force it to use 3G.
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Pointless to test on your cell phone though?
 
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Method said:
Pointless to test on your cell phone though?
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Why?
It uses the same tower, probably the same band as well. When i test LTE on my cellphone i get exactly the same as when i test it via WIFI->LTE. And if I force the phone to use 3G the speeds increase, So if you change the router to 3G, this should then theoretically also increase. Im going to test toning.
i was not aware the unlimited LTE would work on 3G, hence me not testing this earlier on.
 
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Lament said:
Why?
It uses the same tower, probably the same band as well. When i test LTE on my cellphone i get exactly the same as when i test it via WIFI->LTE. And if I force the phone to use 3G the speeds increase, So if you change the router to 3G, this should then theoretically also increase. Im going to test toning.
i was not aware the unlimited LTE would work on 3G, hence me not testing this earlier on.
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If you use the antennae, you point it to a tower and if you're using your cell it's on the 1800Mhz frequency so can get to any tower in the area.
 
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Method said:
If you use the antennae, you point it to a tower and if you're using your cell it's on the 1800Mhz frequency so can get to any tower in the area.
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Regardless if i use the antenna or the bunny ears it automatically connects to the same tower. it will always connect to the tower which is closest and with the strongest signal. So obviously when I am home my cellphone and router uses the same tower, hence me getting the exact same speed.
I have switched my routers band between 1800 and 2300, it connects to the same tower.
 
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Method said:
Not nah. The problem is backhaul bandwidth. Not the LTE.
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There is another possibility... I'll have to chat to some connections to see if it is possible. They could be limiting the throughput from the LTE services in the exchange, i.e. preventing the LTE users from congesting the backhaul links for customers using other technologies such as 3G, DSL, etc.
 
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MickeyD said:
There is another possibility... I'll have to chat to some connections to see if it is possible. They could be limiting the throughput from the LTE services in the exchange, i.e. preventing the LTE users from congesting the backhaul links for customers using other technologies such as 3G, DSL, etc.
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So the real issue is still as it always was, not enough capacity on the backhaul, combined with an inadequate traffic growth plan ...
 
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