- Feb 26, 2011
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That's not very reassuring out of a possible 230 but it does prove what I have been saying all along, Ace overestimates his support and influence and he is going to be very humbled by this.Well only 168 ANC MPs actually voted --- I bet a fair few who opposed the ANC caucus decision simply ducked out of voting.
That's not very reassuring out of a possible 230 but it does prove what I have been saying all along Ace overestimates his support and influence and he is going to be very humbled by this.
Going forward people like Supra and the others who have been vocal about their preference for the Zuma faction will have to ask themselves if it's all worth it.
And NDZ is the real President of the republic? Don't worry, sometimes I also don't know whether I am coming or going as far as this forum's interpretation of politics is concerned, it can be very confusing.I thought Ace's support was pretty strong within the ANC? I mean, he is almost untouchable.
And NDZ is the real President of the republic? Don't worry, sometimes I also don't know whether I am coming or going as far as this forum's interpretation of politics is concerned, it can be very confusing.
Politics is the art (dodgy?) of slow motion. It was thought Zuma would never "resign" and it took quite a while to get rid of him as president, right?
Indeed. Looks like you study politics quite a lot.
I think certain types of Gevaar is quite strong with Mr Poplak. Writes quite prolifically though.I try not to. My statement does come from this article though:
There is magical thinking in polite South African society that ANC Secretary-General Ace Magashule’s political demise is imminent. In the real world, Ace is in the strongest position to wield the final, killing blow. He is perhaps the greatest threat democratic South Africa has ever faced.www.dailymaverick.co.za
Though, it's just an opinion; it's a convincing one I think.
The corrupt will always back the corrupt. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
Don't worry, remember just after Nasrec we had almost close to a 50/50 split between the two camps and people on this forum were adamant that Cyril will not finish his first term? We've come a long way, haven't we?The corrupt will always back the corrupt. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
They should all be removed from power. Bunch of parasites!
You obviously have factored it the enormous cost of the tenders for office space, meeting spaces, hotels, transport, refreshments, meals and various other niceties required by these enquiries. No pleasant surprise here; just another enormous waste of money.What waste of money is it because MPs are getting paid anyway? looks like they are doing what they are paid to do and you are still moaning, what a pleasant surprise...
In a memo to political parties, parliament said the number of ANC MPs who took part in the vote had been under-reported by three MPs, which means 171 voted in favour of the motion instead of the 168 captured on Tuesday.
The list also shows that despite his earlier protest, MKMVA president Kebby Maphatsoe, who is aligned to the RET faction, voted in support of the motion.
Maphatsoe on Friday conceded he had no choice but to do so following instructions from ANC national chairperson Gwede Mantashe, who told party MPs no dissent would be allowed during the vote.