Public Protector staff had to bow to 'Madam' Mkhwebane, Section 194 committee hears

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She is a useless advocate, a nasty human being. Why isn't she fired already ?
Because Chapter 9. It is a good thing that PP can't be fired willy nilly otherwise Zuma could have got rid of Ms Madonsela easily.

Like everything in life, you win some, you lose some.
 

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well the Madam needs to feel important,
so you do what your told or else,

still surprised people were defending her when she got the job,
the DA at least can stand back and say "told you so"
 

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Hlaudi had a choir sing his praises. This bowing thing is amateur hour.

The Gupta's had their staff bowing and scraping whenever they walked through an office. This is what happens when people who have never learned to exercise authority with dignity suddenly get given the power they can't handle and get superiority complexes.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
 

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Because we don't live in a banana Republic, we have laws and processes.


In economics, a banana republic is a country with an economy of state capitalism, by which economic model the country is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies, in which the profit, derived from the private exploitation of public lands, is private property, while the debts incurred thereby are the financial responsibility of the public treasury.

Such an imbalanced economy remains limited by the uneven economic development of town and country, and usually reduces the national currency into devalued banknotes (paper money), rendering the country ineligible for international development credit.


Junk status. Sound familiar?
 

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Clearly she watches too many Korean Dramas.

Its popular to bow to your manager or boss in Korea, also Japan. Its being polite. Also you can not question your manager.

And if you're really apologetic you kneel.

All part of a culture of good manners and respect. We sadly have none of this in SA.

If we adopted the eastern culture you think we should, many MP's and Civil Service heads like Qedhani Mahlangu would have had to commit Hari-Kiri.
 

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In economics, a banana republic is a country with an economy of state capitalism, by which economic model the country is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies, in which the profit, derived from the private exploitation of public lands, is private property, while the debts incurred thereby are the financial responsibility of the public treasury.

Such an imbalanced economy remains limited by the uneven economic development of town and country, and usually reduces the national currency into devalued banknotes (paper money), rendering the country ineligible for international development credit.


Junk status. Sound familiar?
LOL, South Africa's economy is the opposite of your definition. I'd love to see you give actual examples of where any of the definitions fit SA.
 

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This is what immigrants like me have to deal with every day. Why did you guys drive superior talent to perth before I landed here?

SA was your only choice. Perth and California didn't recognise your qualifications and the Home Affairs didn't want Rupees.
 

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Never liked Mkhwebane for PP. Always thought her to be the wrong candidate.
However, if this report is indeed true, then she's not unique in this regard.
These are usually traits of self-important individuals that's been given positions of power.
 

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In private sector, some people did stand up (at least pre-covid times) if boss happen to come to their desk but most of us didn't really. People call each other by names but at times, I have been called by Mr. "surname" by some juniors and I believe it is considered a sign of respect to call by surname.

How many countries have you worked in?
 

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When last did your boss wake up in a foul mood and fired you on the spot?

Oh never mind, I can totally how insensitive my question is.

Can't happen in SA the most protected country regarding labour laws. All sheltered employment. It can and does happen in the USA. Seen it happen.
 

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Worked in over 20 countries. The best ones have all calling each other by first names and no bowing and scraping.
TBH, Japan is the main one where its a cultural norm but its also to each other, not to one.
 

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LOL, South Africa's economy is the opposite of your definition. I'd love to see you give actual examples of where any of the definitions fit SA.

It fits perfectly. Especially where:

The economic model of the country is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies, in which the profit, derived from the private exploitation of public lands, is private property, while the debts incurred thereby are the financial responsibility of the public treasury.
 

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It fits perfectly. Especially where:

The economic model of the country is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies, in which the profit, derived from the private exploitation of public lands, is private property, while the debts incurred thereby are the financial responsibility of the public treasury.
Do that with examples to show this perfect fit, Cosmik. Shouldn't be too hard for you.
 
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