Pupils allegedly torch Durban school over confiscated cellphones

[Gyre]

I don't care because it's irrelevant to the base behavioural requirements to take part in society.

The parents of these children have failed to teach them how one should and shouldn't behave.

I seriously suggest you read up on the school if you think parents matter at all

 

[porchrat]

I seriously suggest you read up on the school if you think parents matter at all

These children set fire to a building. Nothing else is relevant here.

Are you honestly telling me that if you had kids you would teach them that it's acceptable behaviour to set fire to buildings?

I sincerely hope that if that is the case that you don't have children, because you'd make a terrible parent.

 

[Gyre]

These children set fire to a building. Nothing else is relevant here.

Are you honestly telling me that if you had kids you would teach them that it's acceptable behaviour to set fire to buildings?

I sincerely hope that if that is the case that you don't have children, because you'd make a terrible parent.

Porch, if you walk thru a dangerous part of town at night, what do you do yo protect yourself? Now what if you do it every night? And would you tell someone you love to walk thru a dangerous town, every night?

And if someone was blackmailing your kid for sex, would you blame the kid? If someone didn't pitch up for class and your kid fails, do you blame your kid?

And WHICH kids did this Porch? All of them? 90%? 50%?

Before you lecture people, I suggest getting off your privileged butt for a day and spending some time with them, and not just the picture you have in your head.

 

[porchrat]

Porch, if you walk thru a dangerous part of town at night, what do you do yo protect yourself? Now what if you do it every night? And would you tell someone you love to walk thru a dangerous town, every night?

No of course not. It's got a lot of people in that area that are a danger to those around them in society. People who, ideally, should be in prison.

And if someone was blackmailing your kid for sex, would you blame the kid? If someone didn't pitch up for class and your kid fails, do you blame your kid?

No of course I wouldn't blame the kid.

I'd blame the kid if she set fire to a building in retaliation though. The guy blackmailing is the monster, not my kid if I have anything to teach her.

And WHICH kids did this Porch? All of them? 90%? 50%?

The ones that belong in prison did this.

Before you lecture people, I suggest getting off your privileged butt for a day and spending some time with them, and not just the picture you have in your head.

It's not about privilege vs. non-privilege. It's about an expected baseline for human behaviour.

 

[mojoman]

No of course not. It's got a lot of people in that area that are a danger to hose around them in society. People who, ideally, should be in prison.


No of course I wouldn't blame the kid.

I'd blame the kid if she set fire to a building in retaliation though. The guy blackmailing is the monster, not my kid if I have anything to teach her.


The ones that belong in prison did this.


It's not about privilege vs. non-privilege. It's about an expected baseline for human behaviour.

Depending where you live...

 

[porchrat]

Depending where you live...

It doesn't matter where you live. Setting fire to buildings is dangerous. Those who feel it's appropriate behaviour should not be allowed to roam freely in society. They're going to hurt somebody.

 

[mojoman]

It doesn't matter where you live. Setting fire to buildings is dangerous. Those who feel it's appropriate behaviour should not be allowed to roam freely in society. They're going to hurt somebody.

While it may not be appropriate..
Its certainly become acceptable and a standard that we have come to expect...

 

[porchrat]

While it may not be appropriate..
Its certainly become acceptable and a standard that we have come to expect...

Sure lawlessness is everywhere in this country, that doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it acceptable.

Nobody should be defending the actions of these kids. Their behaviour is unacceptable. What the school or cops did or didn't do is completely irrelevant. These kids are responsible for their actions. As minors potentially their parents also carry responsibility, but that's where the buck stops.

 

[Bill Clitnon]

If your school is a sht!hole, you won't feel too bad about burning it down.

Also, nobody touches my phone, and they apparently took 400. The government gangsters created this situation.

Are you seriously trying to defend them?

Yea it sounds like what they did was unnecessary, but that does not justify the students' savage behaviour.

Also it does not matter what condition the school was in. For most of them it's probably the best they can get.

 

[ArmatageShanks]

Then they say the kids are the future of the country. They are painting a very bleak picture.

*Those kids

 

[3WA]

It seems like such an obvious thing to say but you shouldn’t burn down your school if the police confiscate your phone.

You should rather burn down the police station.

 

[Gyre]

Are you seriously trying to defend them?

Yea it sounds like what they did was unnecessary, but that does not justify the students' savage behaviour.

Also it does not matter what condition the school was in. For most of them it's probably the best they can get.

I'm not defending them, I'm saying they never burnt down a school, they burnt down a useless daycare center, a mini Hillbrow.

Most, if not all forumites here never gave a **** about the teachers having sex with students, the teachers not pitching up, the teachers pitching up drunk, the bribery to raise report marks, the kids carrying drunks and weapons through school - but oh no, the students burnt down a few classrooms in this useless place.

I ran and managed outreach programs for these kids, these kids that came from everywhere and had nothing, just so they could get some sort of education and a lot of them were incredible kids - they just had no opportunities. They were willing to give yup their night times to further their studies because their schools are such fkups, so so I don't exactly feel ad that these same shitholes are burning down, especially this one.

 

[mojoman]

Oh the crusading...

 

[Gyre]

Oh the crusading...

Where?

 

[Stokstert]

"I believe the children are our future" ‐Whitney Houston.

Indeed, Whitney. Indeed.

What a k@k future lies ahead with those bandits.

 

[Vrotappel]

You don't care because you are not the one going there? Would you send your kids or nephews to this school?

At least they have money for cellphones.

 

[Vorastra]

but oh no, the students burnt down a few classrooms in this useless place.

Fiery but mostly peaceful retard appears again.

 

[wingnut771]

I'm not defending them, I'm saying they never burnt down a school, they burnt down a useless daycare center, a mini Hillbrow.

Most, if not all forumites here never gave a **** about the teachers having sex with students, the teachers not pitching up, the teachers pitching up drunk, the bribery to raise report marks, the kids carrying drunks and weapons through school - but oh no, the students burnt down a few classrooms in this useless place.

I ran and managed outreach programs for these kids, these kids that came from everywhere and had nothing, just so they could get some sort of education and a lot of them were incredible kids - they just had no opportunities. They were willing to give yup their night times to further their studies because their schools are such fkups, so so I don't exactly feel ad that these same shitholes are burning down, especially this one.

This can all be fixed if their parents vote DA in '24.

 

[Gyre]

At least they have money for cellphones.

And you probably got money for medical aid, gap cover, pension, life insurance, house cover, car insurance, cell phone contracts and a subscription to some online service?

Relevance?

 

[chrisc]

Charging a child R200 to get their cellphone back? I don't believe it

Two schools in Wynberg, Cape Town charge this. SACS its R250

No idea if its enforced though. One headmistress said it depended on what it was being use for. In the classroom definitely not. If an extra-mural activity was cancelled and the pupil needed transport, a different story