Pupils allegedly torch Durban school over confiscated cellphones

C4Cat

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Imagine what a degenerate you have to be to burn your school simply because your phone got confiscated. Good riddance!
You're OK with the police illegally confiscating stealing your stuff?
 

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Wait, is there actually a fee to get the phone back? I was joking about that in my post.
 

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Our school had options. R100 to get it back, wait until the end of the term or bring your parents. They also gave a receipt to log everything so you get back everything that was confiscated but never was the school burnt down.
 
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You're OK with the police illegally confiscating stealing your stuff?
READ the article...

The SCHOOL confiscated the phones...and requested the police keep it in SAFE STORAGE.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?
 

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READ the article...

The SCHOOL confiscated the phones...and requested the police keep it in SAFE STORAGE.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?
They have no right to confiscate private property. Simple. It's theft. And it's not the job of the police to enforce school rules or store stolen property. Neither the police nor the school have any right to take your private property without a court order. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

If you break the school rules the only thing the school can do is have you escorted off the premises. For people who usually bang on about the sanctity of private property there does seem to be a weird general acceptance that its no problem for authorities to just take your stuff.
 

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Apologies, you are right. Next time the police confiscate my phone I will set my school/work/house on fire. That will show them!

You are missing the point.
I'm not missing the point, I never said I thought it was OK to set the school on fire
 

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Our school had options. R100 to get it back, wait until the end of the term or bring your parents. They also gave a receipt to log everything so you get back everything that was confiscated but never was the school burnt down.

What was your school? I want to do a comparison
 

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They have no right to confiscate private property. Simple. It's theft. And it's not the job of the police to enforce school rules or store stolen property. Neither the police nor the school have any right to take your private property without a court order. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

If you break the school rules the only thing the school can do is have you escorted off the premises. For people who usually bang on about the sanctity of private property there does seem to be a weird general acceptance that its no problem for authorities to just take your stuff.
Nonsense
 

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I'm not missing the point, I never said I thought it was OK to set the school on fire

Neither did he say that he's OK with the police stealing his stuff. But you brought it up anyway.

You're OK with the police illegally confiscating stealing your stuff?

Which implies you're trying to justify the burning.
 
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PrimeSteak

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Two schools in Wynberg, Cape Town charge this. SACS its R250
Curious. That's probably how it works in the cities.

Here in the rural areas (from my experience anyway), your phone gets taken away for a week or so, sometimes till the end of the term, I don't think there was an option for "bail" so to speak.
 
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READ the article...

The SCHOOL confiscated the phones...and requested the police keep it in SAFE STORAGE.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?
The police are not your bank safe. Anything they take has to have a clear chain of custody and can only be taken with a view to a criminal matter. This is civil.

The school can confiscate phones, that is a civil matter between them and the parents which can be governed by code of conduct or school rules.

Obviously the burning and violence is unacceptable, noone argues that and whether it was taken by either party its not grounds to behave in that manner BUT the police involvement on the phones was an overreach. Weapons/Drugs yes as they involve criminal code.
 

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The police are not your bank safe. Anything they take has to have a clear chain of custody and can only be taken with a view to a criminal matter. This is civil.

The school can confiscate phones, that is a civil matter between them and the parents which can be governed by code of conduct or school rules.

Obviously the burning and violence is unacceptable, noone argues that and whether it was taken by either party its not grounds to behave in that manner BUT the police involvement on the phones was an overreach. Weapons/Drugs yes as they involve criminal code.
This.
 

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There is a bylaw that states a traffic cop can request/confiscate your cell phone under reason that they suspect it was used maliciously, and there is a release cost involved.

Where is the clause at the school that cell phones will be handed over to the police?
The school has got a policy that cell phones are not allowed. They are allowed to confiscate the phones. On this day 400 little criminals in training decided to FU this policy. The school asked the police to keep it safe for logistical reasons. Why the hell are you continuing like a speared pig? Respect for the law starts at home and at school. This should be a lesson for these little criminals in training.
 
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