Question About HDMI AUDIO on ATI Radeon 4670 And Sony Bravia LCD and amp

rasputinsa

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Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me with this.
I have an ATI Radeon graphics card (4670) the one with the build in hdmi audio connection. When I first got it, I spend weeks trying to get the HD audio sound and I finaly got it. I used:

Ati HDMI audio driver (not the Realtek ones)
Realtek 97 for my recording devices.
Catalyst control center 9.1 and the HDMI audio driver fixed all other problems.
Sony amp DDW 7000 (detected in catalyst as sonyamp)

This work great for months. I had all the Hdmi audio options one could want in games etc. (More than just 2 channels).

Now, since I got my Bravia 40inch LCD (klv-40s400a) I lost all sound. Catalyst do not detect the Sony amp like it did. The ATI HDMI Audio driver does not show in my sound devices to be selected. I did every trick and thing out there no luck (even tried the latest Realtek drivers). If I run the old 8.2 ATI HDMI audio drivers it I can select it from the device list in sound options, but still no sound. In addition, Catalyst does not detect the amp if I do this.

Any ideas? I also feel that the hdmi audio drivers does not install in its fullest sense. I tried all the driver versions. I uninstalled. I ran driver cleaner etc. I even tried disabling and uninstalling the Microsoft UAA hot fix. Every time I boot up cleanly the ATI function driver installed automatically and I think this is the reason the new ATI HDMI Audio drivers are not installing. (XP sp 2)

Audio software
Blu ray dvd
Full HD

P.S I still have this problem.
 
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rasputinsa

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some specs

What kind of full specs?

ati radeon 4670 graphics card from biostar
onboard realtek audio
windows Xp service pack 2
Amd athlon 64 processor
3800+
2.40ghz
2gig ram
 

Juggy

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Model number bud, specifically the mobo and GPU including brand names.
 

howardb

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How is the Sony Bravia KLV-40S400A connected - to the DDW 7000 amp or to the ATI 4670 card? If connected to the ATI 4670, which HDMI port are you using on the Bravia? Are you using a DVI -> HDMI Converter? What version HDMI cable is used, 1.3?

Here's an extract from the Sony user manual covering this - read carefully and use the right connections, 'cos it apparently makes a difference depending on what/how you're connecting:

sony_klv-40s400a.jpg
 
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rasputinsa

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:)

As for the graphics card: VA4673NH51-BS20R
HD4670 512MB DDR3 (HDMI/DVI/VGA (no converter)
The Cable is 1.3 HDMI . Remember I did get sound until the day the TV arrived. I just wished I left the ATI drivers installed as they where even when I did not get sound when connecting the TV –these ATI sound HDMI drivers are tricky to install (to say the least).
Howardb, thank you. I will study this piece of writing: The Graphics is working fine (with black border). It’s just the audio that is not playing anywhere. (thank you for your post I am reading it now). For now I am still looking for other ideas.
 

rasputinsa

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Pc connection to amp

Pc from Hdmi pc graphics card connection too sony ddw 7000 reciever (sat hdmi at the mo)
 

rasputinsa

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Here is the specs

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Report Date: Wednesday 15 April 2009 at 13:22

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<<< System Summary >>>

> Mainboard : Winfast K8M890-8237

> Chipset : K8M890CE Host Bridge

> Processor : AMD Athlon 64 3800+ @ 2400 MHz

> Physical Memory : 2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )

> Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 4670

> Hard Disk : Maxtor (82 GB)

> Hard Disk : MAXTOR (80 GB)

> Hard Disk : ST31000333AS (1000 GB)

> DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M

> DVD-Rom Drive : RN3213B XRJ197Y SCSI CdRom Device

> DVD-Rom Drive : RN3213B XRJ197Y SCSI CdRom Device

> Monitor Type : X222W - 22 inches

> Monitor Type : SONY SONY AVAMP - 36 inches

> Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter

> Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2

> DirectX : Version 9.0c (October 2008)
 

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What version HDMI cable is used, 1.3?

Isn't n HDMI cable just that - only a cable?

I thought the differing versions were the devices - and the cable was the same in each case?
 
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rasputinsa

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It still the same cable

Well I got a new 5meter cable instead of the old 2meter one, but it is still the same 1.3 hdmi Cable and make (warf).
 

simongie

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Check in your device manager and see if there are any uninstalled devices there. It may be listed as an unknown device with a yellow sign and exclamation mark.

I used to have issues with the downloaded Catalyst drivers downloaded from AMD's website not installing the HDMI sound. I got around this by uninstalling ALL AMD/ATI software including the Catalyst software and display driver. Then install the drivers from the driver disk included in the box which will install the HDMI device properly. Then download the newest driver package from AMD's website and install.

See how that goes.
 

rasputinsa

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Thank you

Thank you for sharing that story and information. I also did try something similar before. Your advice is giving me new hope to keep trying. Lol it is a rather funny and regular occurrence in these forums for people with similar Ati problems to experience mental breakdowns (around the world). They are expressing anger and frustration at others not understanding all the difficulties they are experiencing. Hence, you find the words “I am not an idiot” a lot. Now where is my box again? I will report. I now only spend an hour a day to try to resolve this and then I restore.

Thank you.
 

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If you can't find the disc, then try and download the driver from the card manufacturers website. But make sure it isn't just linking to the Catalyst drivers supplied by ATI/AMD.
Best bet is to find the original driver disc. Keep us posted.
 

rasputinsa

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no luck yet

I tried last night still no luck. If I can just get Catalyst to detect the receiver like it used too. Mine do not use that dongle / adaptor (straight HDMI - HDMI connection). I will keep trying since it is Friday today (it has been 4 weeks of effort now).
 

rasputinsa

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Soneoneelse also wroteabout this problem “I have an ATI Radeon graphics card (4670) the one with the build in HDMI audio connection. When I first got it, I spend weeks trying to get the HD audio sound and I finaly got it. I used:

Ati HDMI audio driver (not the Realtek ones) Realtek 97 for my recording devices. Catalyst control center 9.1 and the HDMI audio driver fixed all other problems. Sony amp DDW 7000 (detected in catalyst as sonyamp).

Does anyone have their HDMI audio working after upgrading to 9.3 or 9.4 with the built-in driver?

It had been working fine for me until I did the upgrade. Now, it says the HDMI audio device is installed and working, but there are no playback devices installed. Opening the volume mixer says the same thing "No playback devices installed". There is also a red X over the speaker in the task bar.

In addition, Catalyst does not detect the amp if I do this.

Any ideas? Please help...”


From me: I just found a website with a possible solution for this. It is not working for me yet, but the answer must be in this direction….
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/no-sound-from-working-correctly-hardware-solved-vt66902.html "Apparently there is a 10 Entry Limit in Windows NT/2000/XP concerning upgrading drivers or installing hardware related to sound. It says up to SP1 for XP but that can't be true because I am on XP SP2 and it no doubt had this issue to the mark. When I went to the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32 like they show us, I found the driver wdmaud.drv replicated 10 times listed for my wave device. Also my midi driver (also wdmaud.drv) was replicated the same amount. The entries were in a pattern such as midi, midi1, midi2, midi3, etc. and wave, wave1, wave2, wave3, etc. I deleted all but the first entries with no number attached, leaving only one wave and midi driver, and on reboot, I got the tone I never thought I would love.

Windows XP boot-up music is sweet only so often, and this was truly one for the books. I was surprised this worked, but it appears very common for those especially attempting to install HD drivers from Realtek. This also appears to happen on others, but mostly NForce and Realtek setups from what I could tell from all the searching.

I hope this solves all your problems; this was a miracle for me. Thanks for listening to me, hope it was worth it.

Good luck. Tell me how it goes. Export the key before you edit the registry so that if it does not work, no loss."
 
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