Question: Did ICASA approve Telkom's 900% price hike of 30 GB package?

Siembambaa

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Would Telkom's latest creative accounting have to be approved by ICASA?

If yes, well ... ICASA's credibility drops right back to where it was before, in the gutter. ICASA do you actually realise you are here to protect the consumer?

If no, well ... how the !%£&"!%& can ICASA allow Telkom to raise prices 900% on one of their products?

It's obscene :mad:

PS: How does Telkom get to retain its "Proudly South African" tag after its recent threat to cut ADSL services and undermine SA's economy?
 
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Ok Telkom suck and all that, but the current 30gig accounts can not be seen in accurate price availability.

This was special circumstance for a short time and was never intended to be this price. So arguing that Telkom is increasing the 30gig accounts isnt accurate at all.
 

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Tim Modise (chairman of proudly SA) should kick them out but is too scared because (guess what!) Telkom is a major funding partner for the PROUDLY SA campaign. CLEVER SHARKS THAT THEY ARE!!!!

If I have to sit through one more ad in a cinema where the dog Pilot runs to listen to his master's voice (phoning from China) via an answering machine on some farm in SA I am going to scream! As cute as the ad is, it is a perfect example of what Telkom is. Good (expensive) marketing and nothing more...
 

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lol , well rather that ad than that silly family pretending to be racing because they are on adsl.
 

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I love dogs and I have respect for farmers if there is any doubt about that. The problem I have with Telkom's ads is that they 99.9% of the time sell nothing but air. The only reason the monopoly is advertising the warm and fuzzy spots is because they want to lull the public into thinking Telkom is doing us such a massive favor! To hell with Telkom! The day they give us good service at reasonable prices is when they will start getting any good will from me...
 

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Clipse said:
Ok Telkom suck and all that, but the current 30gig accounts can not be seen in accurate price availability.

This was special circumstance for a short time and was never intended to be this price. So arguing that Telkom is increasing the 30gig accounts isnt accurate at all.

while thats true, prices shouldn't have to be anywhere near that in the first place. im sure most people agree that even as it stands given the amount that we're currently paying towards ISP's is still high by international standards, im sure that most people are reasonably comfortable paying current rates. the point is that telkom don't consider consumers when making pricing adjustments, if they did then the new pricing structure would be more or less that which we are paying now.

however, having said that, i think we need to remember that the source of this new pricing structure is anonymous, so things could still be unconfirmed. icasa surely will have something to say, so also i dont think that we need to start panicking just yet :)
 

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Correct me if i am wrong about this.

But the great thing about the ANC statement is that they have out their trust in ICASA, Ivy really cant go against the grain on ICASA's findings... that should bolster our confidence in ICASA.
 

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mccrack said:
Correct me if i am wrong about this.

But the great thing about the ANC statement is that they have out their trust in ICASA, Ivy really cant go against the grain on ICASA's findings... that should bolster our confidence in ICASA.
please remember that the ANC statement was unofficial and not a statement of their official position although if challenged or forced to I think they would make the same statement to the press.
I have confidence in this process.
Huge confidence.
Irrspective of what happens, the chink in Telkoms arrmour has been exposed. The next attack they will not weather at all....
 

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Clipse said:
Ok Telkom suck and all that, but the current 30gig accounts can not be seen in accurate price availability.

This was special circumstance for a short time and was never intended to be this price. So arguing that Telkom is increasing the 30gig accounts isnt accurate at all.



If it is possible to offer the 30GB accounts at R350 (and less) retail as a "special", why can't it be made a "permanent offer"?

Around the world we see the cost of ADSL dropping/speeds & features increasing.
 

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kaspaas - eventually it must go that way, but you simply do not increase traffic instantly across adsl users by 10x at the same price. You do it marginally and increase the network bandwidth and layout if need be.

These things do take time and planning, continuely, but lower prices and increasing speed must happen naturally.

Just, NOT OVERNIGHT, thats when Bandwidth becomes only the word "Ba....." and adsl become "56k technology"
 

Siembambaa

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Current ADSL users arnt experiancing degraded performance so surely the network can handle 30 GB accounts? Unless the proportion of 30GB account users is very small ...

SAFE-SAT3 has about a 100 gbit capacity so I still fail to see the problem ...
 

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i think alot of people have 30gig acc's, or most users aint cap'd... well i presume they aint ;p
 

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i haven't experienced any degradation of service. got the 192kB package and a 30 gig a/c. i get speeds of 30kB/s
 

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As I understand it, the 30gb accounts were not even a special. Telkom merely allowed some ISPs to get away with it. Probably because they couldn't prevent it until November. Now they are shutting it down. And shutting down the local uncapped as well. So there is nothing for ICASA to approve.

In theory, the only differences in November will be :

1) Local uncapped gone. (Goodbye DC++)
2) High cap loopholes gone.
3) No 3 gig limit. But you pay as you go (probably around R80 a gig).

So if you have a 3 gig cap now, you won't be paying any more for it. Pity about that local thing. And of course you can now buy more gigs as you need them without buying a new account.

Of course, if you were on a 30gig loophole account, it's gonna feel like your first night in prison.

Our hope here lies in the ICASA anti rental thing. If the rental goes, The same price will buy us 7 or 8 gigs. So technically a significant decrease in price.

Still sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls though.
 

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Hey just a side note on that friggin Ad, but the guy is calling from China right?

probably using a Chinese network.... :)

ha ha!
 
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