R 10 Mil. For Zuma's futher court cases if need be.

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Hey, our president-in-waiting needs the best lawyers in the country - let's up the R10m to R20m!

We can't feed Jacob to the sharks?
 

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Please explain why this is not unussual?

Wouter Basson, Magnus (?) Malan, and some others have had their legal fees paid by the government. Anyway, it is wrong IMHO that JZ handpicked his legal army. He should have been forced to use a State provided attorney, especially if his case was more about his potential corruption personally rather than being forced to do certain things in accordance to the government at the time... unless JZ was planning to argue that Thabo or even the Devil made him do it :rolleyes:

It's a grey area and the anc/government decided to go with JZ - probably politically the best move they (the anc/gvt) could make considering he is likely to be the next president.....
 

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I had issues with Mallan and Basson as well, and do not feel that it is fear that we pay their court cases. However, government failed in these cases to get them convicted. Therefore it can be assumed that they are innocent and were wrongfully taken to court. In this case it will be unfair for them to carry their own legal costs. Also it would be unfair for them to not have legal council of their choice...
 

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I had issues with Mallan and Basson as well, and do not feel that it is fear that we pay their court cases. However, government failed in these cases to get them convicted. Therefore it can be assumed that they are innocent and were wrongfully taken to court. In this case it will be unfair for them to carry their own legal costs. Also it would be unfair for them to not have legal council of their choice...

Why's it unfair? Because they are high profile? Tens of thousands of cases every week in South Africa takes place where accused either have no legal represenation or court appointed presentation. Why should Zuma and other government officials enjoy special treatment? Oh yeah, I forgot, Zuma is a celebrity pop star these days.
 

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While I'm on this issue, it is my understanding that all Government Officials that were accused in the "Travel Gate" scam had to pay for their own legal presentation? So this privilege of paying the legal fees on this basis was only extended to JZ because of who he is then right?
 

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jontyB, My point is simple! It is the legal system that is failing here. Why must they pay for the failures of the legal system. The same should go for everyone else, and that is where the unfairness lies! You must be able to get the legal council of your choice! If you are found to be guilty you must pay the bill. If innocent you should not pay the bill....
 
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jontyB, My point is simple! It is the legal system that is failing here. Why must they pay for the failures of government. The same should go for everyone else, and that is where the unfairness lies! You must be able to get the legal council of your choice! If you are found to be guilty you must pay the bill. If innocent you should not pay the bill....

In Zuma's case he has said he will pay if found guilty. My bet is that if he is found guilty he declares himslf bankrupt within 10 mS.
 

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If the taxpayer has to pay for a member of government's trial like Zuma, pretty soon we will hear from Peter Marais demanding compensation for his trial.
He did and a lower court agreed, but it was overturned.

The same should go for everyone else, and that is where the unfairness lies! You must be able to get the legal council of your choice! If you are found to be guilty you must pay the bill. If innocent you should not pay the bill....
This would actually be fair. If the government has insufficient evidence they should not pursue the case in court, and if they do, but fail to prove guilt they should carry the legal costs. Going to court is very expensive and having a good lawyer can make all the difference when the state has a flimsy or non-existent case.
 
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A good lawyer is like medical aid - it's very expensive, but everybody is happy they have one when the **** hits the fan.
 

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chatmaster: I am telling it like it is and you're saying how it should be... we're in agreement here methinks?
 
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