R43m dairy investment yields barely any milk

clickingbuttons

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agreed, and that is my point, giving these people big bags of money is the WRONG move,
what should have happened is the farm should have been run by competent people who trained disadvantaged farmers
how to run the farm competently. and they were always around to make sure it got run properly.

and this is exactly why Land reform will never go anywhere in this country.
more incompetence and mismanagement than results.

sure there are exceptions to the rule, but they are few and far between.

Please point out 1 or 2 exceptions so we can see.

Thanks in advance.
 

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its worked before overseas, look at kibbutz, and many dairy farms run similarly there worked.
Those are people with drive and the willingness to work for their money and profit. Here, in RSA, it's entitlement...the government will bail them out and that's what they're waiting for.
 

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Those are people with drive and the willingness to work for their money and profit. Here, in RSA, it's entitlement...the government will bail them out and that's what they're waiting for.
look to the north, look at Zim, I wouldn't call those people lazy and waiting for a bailout.
 

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Ah yes, that is why they were all either bankrupted or privatised.
But there was decent yield in the 30 - 50 years that they were operational under their original socialist ideals.
The dairy project in the OP hasn't really got any yield at all
 

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No use of crying over spilled milk.

You can cry until the cows come home, but the money won't come back. Neither will the cows.

This capitalist notion of profit is a sacred cow that needs to die. What we need instead is the ANC notion of pigs feeding at the trough.
 

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z...but absolutely nothing is happening there. It was...but not now.
yes, but is that necessarily because they are Lazy and incompetent?
Id say in Zim its more due to how corrupt they are.

given enough decent chances Im sure something would work well,
I mean they aren't as lazy as some local disadvantaged farmers.
 

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I’m trying to figure out how it will be Jan’s fault this time.
 

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yes, but is that necessarily because they are Lazy and incompetent?
Id say in Zim its more due to how corrupt they are.

given enough decent chances Im sure something would work well,
I mean they aren't as lazy as some local disadvantaged farmers.
Zim could work very well. But the supremacist ideologies like accountability, work ethic, discipline, budgets and so forth commonly seen in European and Asian countries are not something the people would vote into power.
 

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Zim could work very well. But the supremacist ideologies like accountability, work ethic, discipline, budgets and so forth commonly seen in European and Asian countries are not something the people would vote into power.
agreed, and sadly here in SA we face the same problem,
its not the people are lazy, its other things that make a successful disadvantaged farm a pipe dream with no reality.
 

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What a lot of schit you just posted. Seriously...
You may want to read it.

I ran across it last year. In short, the longer the Kibbutz went on, the more it became problematic. Someone that worked for 5 years stood on the same level as someone that worked there 5min. The longer serving members wanted special treatment for their service, but in a kibbutz everyone is equal. This made many of the longer serving members unhappy.

So what slowly happened as time passed all the high skill, high experience members left and only the newbies were left. I'm sure you can see how this will eventually be a problem.
 
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