'Race specific' client, agent reject Cape Town man's apartment rental query, agency drops landlord

konfab

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Unemployment is lowest among white people in this country so you're talking nonsense.

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So because "white" people are employed at a higher rate than black people, a white person in poverty has to be legally excluded from a job to protect the livelihood of a black person in the middle class.

Tell me, what is the harm of replacing BEE and AA with something that takes into account an individual's circumstances rather than their skin colour? What is the worst that will happen? A white person in poverty gets preferential treatment over a black person in the middle class?
 
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So because "white" people are employed at a higher rate than black people, a white person in poverty has to be legally excluded from a job to protect the livelihood of a black person in the middle class.

All people in poverty deserve an opportunity.

What this incident has shown us, is that people often prefer certain people based on race alone and based on the comments in this thread, some people seem to only really care about one demograph having problems with poverty. Who people employ is just as personal as who they lease to.

I don't agree with BEE, but we have bigger issues with employment as a whole.
 

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Unemployment is lowest among white people in this country so you're talking nonsense.

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These stats are rather pointless when you consider the massive differences in population sizes between race groups, as much as it upsets some to hear, black people are reproducing at a much higher rate than any other race group, unemployment in the black/african sector will continue to grow as long as that's the case, there just aren't enough jobs to go around to keep up with the birthrate, now add in our completely useless borders and the issue becomes even bigger.
 

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All people in poverty deserve an opportunity.

What this incident has shown us, is that people often prefer certain people based on race alone and based on the comments in this thread, some people seem to only really care about one demograph having problems with poverty. Who people employ is just as personal as who they lease to.

I don't agree with BEE, but we have bigger issues with employment as a whole.
The trick with discrimination, is that if it is done by a private individual or organisation, they face the costs of doing it. If someone wants to turn down a perfectly good customer because of something as stupid as race, they are the one who will face the costs of it.

The vast majority of people in this country would rather make money than be discriminatory. What covid-19 has shown is that people will follow authoritarianism if it is the law. If the law doesn't mandate discrimination, most people won't do it.
 

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The trick with discrimination, is that if it is done by a private individual or organisation, they face the costs of doing it. If someone wants to turn down a perfectly good customer because of something as stupid as race, they are the one who will face the costs of it.

The vast majority of people in this country would rather make money than be discriminatory.

Is that not true for the tenant? The gentleman was ready and willing with money and he was turned down based on race, showing this isn't true.

Likewise people from poorer backgrounds receive lower wages or are passed over for promotion. Companies are welcome to promote and pay whoever whatever they wish, but history has shown that this tends to be skewed and heavily favored towards certain demographics. Could this perhaps be the rational behind the unemployment figures?

An argument made earlier in another thread, perhaps these people aren't affected by BEE but are actually just lazy?
 

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These stats are rather pointless when you consider the massive differences in population sizes between race groups, as much as it upsets some to hear, black people are reproducing at a much higher rate than any other race group, unemployment in the black/african sector will continue to grow as long as that's the case, there just aren't enough jobs to go around to keep up with the birthrate, now add in our completely useless borders and the issue becomes even bigger.

POOR people are reproducing at a much higher rate, the bulk of poor people happen to be black.
 

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Is that not true for the tenant? The gentleman was ready and willing with money and he was turned down based on race, showing this isn't true.
I said the vast majority. And what I said about them paying the costs is 100% true. If they would rather have an apartment stand open than have a black tenant, the joke is on them.

Likewise people from poorer backgrounds receive lower wages or are passed over for promotion. Companies are welcome to promote and pay whoever whatever they wish, but history has shown that this tends to be skewed and heavily favored towards certain demographics. Could this perhaps be the rational behind the unemployment figures?
You don't think qualifications and experience don't play a part?

An argument made earlier in another thread, perhaps these people aren't affected by BEE but are actually just lazy?
You can't know that because BEE and AA muddy the water.
 

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lol you think i make posts to get likes ?. its cold hard truth.
Why don't you (personally you) pull up your socks and make an effort to improve your poverty? I heard this in Conservative forums so just passing it on.
 

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Its true. As white dude you can't get an interview at my current job. AA only. And just look at job postings. AA prefer aka required.
"AA preferable" means...

"African blacks, Indians and Coloureds of all races, ethnicities and genders, people with disabilities (all races and ethnicities) as well as white women" would be given preference.
 

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The US still has AA laws despite it being a democratic country for decades or centuries without the endemic corruption of the ANC. Why haven't they get to a state where your ethnicity is a non-issue in the job or other places?

You're comparing a country that wants to uplift a minority that are incapable of uplifting themselves to a country that wants to suppress and oppress a minority that are capable of uplifting themselves without help?
 

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Exactly, just like corruption it has a different meaning in an African context.

Blacks=cannot be corrupt
Blacks=cannot be racist

But remember folks, we're all equal..
Never heard that one before. Are you sure this isn't all your opinion?
 
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