Race targets to become stricter in South Africa

Yip. Fsck that, I've started the process to leave this place. I'm not give 8 hours a day to a country that will end up forcing your employer to pass you over just cause you were born to the wrong parents.

I do love SA, and there is a lot that I'm gonna miss, however, the racial quotas and politics is not one of them.
 
Anyway you look at this, it has been a screw up.

We have had race targets for 24 years, and they are getting more strict. Yet, despite that, the government is not happy with the demographics of senior management.

Quite obviously stricter targets are not the answer. You can't just legislate people into management. You have to provide appropriate education and support. But then the ANC is not big on doing actual ground work, they like making policy announcements that makes them look good to voters.
 
According to Rapport, companies which do not meet these targets can be punished by being banned from doing business with the government.
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This will hurt a lot of business that struggle to find capable candidates.
Education is the big problem in SA, not EE. Up the education standards, and people will get employed.
 
GhostSixFour said:
Yip. Fsck that, I've started the process to leave this place. I'm not give 8 hours a day to a country that will end up forcing your employer to pass you over just cause you were born to the wrong parents.

I do love SA, and there is a lot that I'm gonna miss, however, the racial quotas and politics is not one of them.
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In the same canoe as you, my oar and bags are packing
 
This is just so unfair - it ends up causing companies to advertise posts, waste everyone's time interviewing them, and when they don't find a suitable Black enough candidate, they don't fill the post - everyone suffers.
 
Biggest joke here is the white population in SA is now only the third biggest while the black population continues to outgrow all of the others, and yet 24-years later they still need legislation to ''protect'' one group from the other when it comes to competition in the workplace.

You've failed at grassroots level, ANC.
 
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If you want more black executives then focus on creating more positions , eventually the demographics will balance out.
 
diesel said:
If you want more black executives then focus on creating more positions , eventually the demographics will balance out.
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They need to focus on Education at the basic level first... and then go from there...

Creating more positions isn't going to help when you can't find the skills in the right demographics, large private organisations aren't going to employ someone into senior/executive management without at least some skill level relevant to the position.
 
Like I said... ANC doesn't know how to create jobs. So "creating jobs" is by forcing BEE
 
It is an unfortunate truth that South Africa no longer offers a future to a white person. It is a really a shame that so many white people are now working towards saving for the purpose of leaving the country in an attempt to ensure a better future for themselves and their children abroad.

In addition, this also has a serious effect on local businesses. There is no longer a company that can really focus on employing skilled, experienced and qualified staff. Positions are now filled with people under par just to comply with laws and the effects of this can be seen in company growth, service delivery and so many other levels. Most businesses would probably be better off scaling down locally to a minimum while rather focus on bigger business and growth abroad.
 
Badprop_za said:
Imagine the change we could have seen if all the focus was at grass roots......Your 1st batch of top notch candidates could have entered the job market by now.
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There are quite a few who have entered the job market who were born after Apartheid. There are even people that can have finished their Bsc hons this year, with most who have finished their masters probably never having experienced Apartheid discrimination. In about two years you can have your first "mainstream" (non-super smart skipping school years etc.) doctorate candidates born post '95/96.

This "addressing of the past inequality" is already nearing/exceeding third generation since Apartheid for some families.
Based on the 2015 census,
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near 50% of the population wasn't even alive during Apartheid, not mentioning the fact that the 25-29 segment would have not been affected by the Apartheids legislation in regards to entering job market/university, though they might be able to claim that they were adversely affected due to poor background, which is what should actually be legislated for, in regards to making it easier/allowing for special exams to enter university/tertiary education/redo matric for those who come from bad/poor backgrounds (this includes whites, I know quite a few who didn't even finish matric due to either being too poor at the time and having to get a job instantly at 16, or due to terrible homes and basically running as way as fast as they could, etc.. It's not a black only phenomenon, it's a lower-income phenomenon.)

Visser said:
It is an unfortunate truth that South Africa no longer offers a future to a white person. It is a really a shame that so many white people are now working towards saving for the purpose of leaving the country in an attempt to ensure a better future for themselves and their children abroad.

In addition, this also has a serious effect on local businesses. There is no longer a company that can really focus on employing skilled, experienced and qualified staff. Positions are now filled with people under par just to comply with laws and the effects of this can be seen in company growth, service delivery and so many other levels. Most businesses would probably be better off scaling down locally to a minimum while rather focus on bigger business and growth abroad.
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Been seeing smaller businesses cut down as well, market is shrinking for a lot of sectors which is having a knock-on effect on everything/everyone.
 
smi said:
In the same canoe as you, my oar and bags are packing
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Yeah dude. In the prime working years of my life, if you get screwed now because some moron in government decided to employ other above you, it'll take years to make up the ground, if ever - cause suddenly you're seen as too old for a position or similar.

Luckily, I can get a european passport - so need that sorted and everything becomes easier.
 
GhostSixFour said:
Yeah dude. In the prime working years of my life, if you get screwed now because some moron in government decided to employ other above you, it'll take years to make up the ground, if ever - cause suddenly you're seen as too old for a position or similar.

Luckily, I can get a european passport - so need that sorted and everything becomes easier.
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Always had the EU passport, likely to become a UK only soon
 
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