Rain 5G is really impressive - Pure uncapped broadband at 500Mbps

Hanno Labuschagne

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My 5G service has been great but I also think the service will start to take strain when it goes mainstream. Right now I'm the only person on my street with it, and doubt there's more than a handful of people on the same tower as mine... everyone here already has fibre too.
 
waylander said:
My 5G service has been great but I also think the service will start to take strain when it goes mainstream. Right now I'm the only person on my street with it, and doubt there's more than a handful of people on the same tower as mine... everyone here already has fibre too.
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Yes you too. 1Gbps :laugh:
 
netcruiser said:
250 towers for 500,000 households, so you're sharing that 700Mbps with 2000 households. Nah, I'll stick with fibre thanks.
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I think a lot of people will probably stay on fibre as it is a little cheaper and maybe more reliable maybe. Plus their 4g offering at R250 monthly has been pretty huge, I think a lot of people will milk on that, it may take some time for people to catch up to 5g
 
Yes I find the upload speed surprising.

The idea that people mainly download is bit old fashioned. Phones uploading photos, OneDrive, Google drive, WhatsApp and Skype calls... 10mbps isn't great for that.

One of the saving graces of fibre is that they give you MUCH more upload than we are used to making everything much more responsive and useful.
 
Right - anyone complaining about their 5G upload speeds, do a quick upload test to Google Drive :rolleyes:
 
netcruiser said:
250 towers for 500,000 households, so you're sharing that 700Mbps with 2000 households. Nah, I'll stick with fibre thanks.
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Surely the 700mbps isn't the limit of the tower. I thought one of the main positives of 5g was that it could handle a lot more concurrent users thanks LTE?
 
Everyone is complaining about upload speed but lets compare some FACTS.

People have been making whatsapp calls and uploading photos and videos on ADSL for ages.

Comparing the price. Rain 5G download speeds of 300-600Mbps and upload speeds between 10 - 50Mbps pruice fixed fee of R1 000 per month.

Now comparing the 2 biggest fibre operators Openserve and Vumatel on Cool Ideas.

Openserve CISP
10/5 - R499
20/10 - R799
40/20 - R999

Vumatel CISP
10/2 - R649
10/10 - R699
20/2 - R809
20/20 - R909
50/5 - R959

Mweb Openserve
10/2 - R399
20/4 - R699
40/10 - R849
100/20 - R999



Right now why are people complaining? Don't let me compare ADSL or VDSL. Ohh and you want to point me to frogfoot fibre right? But how many houses are covered by Frogfoot compared to Rain 5G? Yeah exactly. According to ISPs most of their traffic is Netflix streaming or other related downloads so the majority is down loaders. If you upload lots of content then yeah this offer is not going to work for you unless you get an external unit because 5G upload suffers due to signal quality the further you move from the tower.

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cavedog said:
Everyone is complaining about upload speed but lets compare some FACTS.

People have been making whatsapp calls and uploading photos and videos on ADSL for ages.

Comparing the price. Rain 5G download speeds of 300-600Mbps and upload speeds between 10 - 50Mbps pruice fixed fee of R1 000 per month.

Now comparing the 2 biggest fibre operators Openserve and Vumatel on Cool Ideas.

Openserve CISP
10/5 - R499
20/10 - R799
40/20 - R999

Vumatel CISP
10/2 - R649
10/10 - R699
20/2 - R809
20/20 - R909
50/5 - R959

Mweb Openserve
10/2 - R399
20/4 - R699
40/10 - R849
100/20 - R999



Right now why are people complaining? Don't let me compare ADSL or VDSL. Ohh and you want to point me to frogfoot fibre right? But how many houses are covered by Frogfoot compared to Rain 5G? Yeah exactly. According to ISPs most of their traffic is Netflix streaming or other related downloads so the majority is down loaders. If you upload lots of content then yeah this offer is not going to work for you unless you get an external unit because 5G upload suffers due to signal quality the further you move from the tower.

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reason for the upload speed is probably that at this stage this gen of 5g uses 4g for upload and signaling...5g channel only used in down link...makes it cheaper/easier for telcos to migrate to 5g while using part of existing infrastructure....
 
DeepFreeze said:
reason for the upload speed is probably that at this stage this gen of 5g uses 4g for upload and signaling...5g channel only used in down link...makes it cheaper/easier for telcos to migrate to 5g while using part of existing infrastructure....
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From the tests I did I do not see them using 4G for upload to be honest. 4G is just not uploading at 60Mbps it just isn't but I might be wrong.
 
I would pay 1000 for 20 up and down uncapped only adsl this side of town.
 
cavedog said:
From the tests I did I do not see them using 4G for upload to be honest. 4G is just not uploading at 60Mbps it just isn't but I might be wrong.
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Eish...guess will take time to get info on rains 5g network setup...for example.....is download 128tx/128rx massive mimo and
cavedog said:
From the tests I did I do not see them using 4G for upload to be honest. 4G is just not uploading at 60Mbps it just isn't but I might be wrong.
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True...but maybe just maybe they change the number of upload timeslots on the 2600mhz band (lte-tdd) when a user is on 5g because such user does not require download timeslots on that lte-tdd band...
 
namzsteve said:
I think a lot of people will probably stay on fibre as it is a little cheaper and maybe more reliable maybe. Plus their 4g offering at R250 monthly has been pretty huge, I think a lot of people will milk on that, it may take some time for people to catch up to 5g
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i'm sure the folks that are suffering from congestion on fibre would take this offer without hesitation.
 
netcruiser said:
250 towers for 500,000 households, so you're sharing that 700Mbps with 2000 households. Nah, I'll stick with fibre thanks.
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That's not how wireless works. It's 700Mbps for a single connection but the whole tower is closer to 10Gbps of which not all would be using it simultaneously at that speed. You'd have to have all 2000 at a constant 5Mbps before maxing it out.

richjdavies said:
Yes I find the upload speed surprising.

The idea that people mainly download is bit old fashioned. Phones uploading photos, OneDrive, Google drive, WhatsApp and Skype calls... 10mbps isn't great for that.

One of the saving graces of fibre is that they give you MUCH more upload than we are used to making everything much more responsive and useful.
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Yet the major fibre providers artificially limit the upload speed and you have to usually have to pay extra for a symmetrical connection.
 
Hanno Labuschagne said:
Rain 5G is really impressive - Pure uncapped broadband at 500Mbps

MyBroadband put Rain’s new 5G broadband service through its paces, and the results were truly impressive.

Rain launched its new 5G service in September, offering “unlimited ultra-fast Internet” with speeds of up to 700Mbps for R1,000 per month.

\Rain’s 5G service is currently available in selected areas in Johannesburg and Tshwane, where it has around 250 towers covering 500,000 households.
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Sounds a bit like Rain 4G fixed LTE some time ago. Paid, got it, plugged in...it worked...40 Mbps down... life was great.
But when problems popped up Rain was absent and after about 7 months the speed was under 2 Mbps.
Then Rain ditched fixed LTE for something new.
The point is - of course the tech works. But this is South Africa.
To jump over to something else - the car is cool, but the motor company WILL screw you.
 
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