Ramaphosa declares Friday, 15 December 2023, a public holiday

Johand said:
Bird flu means no chicken this December dude! If you find chicken in the store it either died from bird flu or isn't actual chicken ;)
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I'll eat a bird flu chicken. 90 minutes in the Weber will kill anything in there that could have been dangerous for me.
 
Toxxyc said:
I'll eat a bird flu chicken. 90 minutes in the Weber will kill anything in there that could have been dangerous for me.
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Your famous snot&beer chicken? Or is it snot&lemon? :sick: Or do you just call it the overcooked smoked mushi chicken surprise?
 
Ag stop complaining and being lazy s**ts! Go to work and work every single day. If you don't then grant recipients will struggle.
 
Johand said:
Your famous snot&beer chicken? Or is it snot&lemon? :sick: Or do you just call it the overcooked smoked mushi chicken surprise?
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Smoked snot and black pepper, actually. :p
 
F this holiday. I dont want it.
I need to work a day longer to meet the hours requirement for the year in the contract or work more overtime
 
Major Boredom said:
F this holiday. I dont want it.
I need to work a day longer to meet the hours requirement for the year in the contract or work more overtime
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Are you employed on contract where you have to work a certain amount of hours? Or is it some other contractual obligation to a client? No sarcasm, serious question. I used to be employed via a labour broker that way.
 
Bliksis said:
Yes, I dare you. Ask. Not one, but I'm on a payroll. It's probably exactly the answer you wanted. I do however hope your company survives this once-off public holiday.
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Once off holiday? Yes.

15 days of annual leave, 12 days (plus one) of public holidays, 30 days of possible sick leave plus days when you cannot operate due to load shedding? No.

And now those that operate on 15th December, as it is their peak time (food service, tourism, retail) either have to close or pay double the costs.

But of course you wouldn't know that. You will happily sit at home, getting paid for doing nothing.
 
Major Boredom said:
F this holiday. I dont want it.
I need to work a day longer to meet the hours requirement for the year in the contract or work more overtime
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Depending on company, you can choose not to have holiday and put in 8 hours ? We can do that on weekends to catch up on lost hours but it depends on contract and trust level from client.
 
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Paulsie said:
Once off holiday? Yes.

15 days of annual leave, 12 days (plus one) of public holidays, 30 days of possible sick leave plus days when you cannot operate due to load shedding? No.

And now those that operate on 15th December, as it is their peak time (food service, tourism, retail) either have to close or pay double the costs.

But of course you wouldn't know that. You will happily sit at home, getting paid for doing nothing.
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If you are in hospitality and you won't pay your staff extra for a day where you will probably make more than usual, you should close and take the hit because business 101 blah blah.

You're counting available sick leave as days off?

Now while I sit doing nothing and get paid for it, I again wish you the best and I hope you survive this economical disaster.
 
Bliksis said:
If you are in hospitality and you won't pay your staff extra for a day where you will probably make more than usual, you should close and take the hit because business 101 blah blah.

You're counting available sick leave as days off?

Now while I sit doing nothing and get paid for it, I again wish you the best and I hope you survive this economical disaster.
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I count available sick leave as days for which I have to pay, while receiving no work in return. To tally up: 15 +13 + 30 =58 days.

58 / 5 = 11.6 weeks for which I have to pay when no work is performed.

If 4.46 employees (52 / 11.6 weeks) take all available leave allowance in a year, that equals to one employee getting paid in full, never having worked.

And that my friend is the economic reality of running a business.
 
Paulsie said:
I count available sick leave as days for which I have to pay, while receiving no work in return. To tally up: 15 +13 + 30 =58 days.

58 / 5 = 11.6 weeks for which I have to pay when no work is performed.

If 4.46 employees (52 / 11.6 weeks) take all available leave allowance in a year, that equals to one employee getting paid in full, never having worked.

And that my friend is the economic reality of running a business.
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You must be a great person to work for
 
Paulsie said:
I count available sick leave as days for which I have to pay, while receiving no work in return. To tally up: 15 +13 + 30 =58 days.

58 / 5 = 11.6 weeks for which I have to pay when no work is performed.

If 4.46 employees (52 / 11.6 weeks) take all available leave allowance in a year, that equals to one employee getting paid in full, never having worked.

And that my friend is the economic reality of running a business.
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But you are receiving work for days you pay for, when your employee is not sick. You're just exaggerating now.

How often has it happened that all your employees were sick for 30 days, or all of them sick even on the same day?

Some reality you live in.
 
Bliksis said:
But you are receiving work for days you pay for, when your employee is not sick. You're just exaggerating now.
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That's called an employment contract. You work abc hours for xyz remuneration.
Bliksis said:
How often has it happened that all your employees were sick for 30 days, or all of them sick even on the same day?
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More often than you may think.

But here's a thought. Let's all celebrate Springbok victory in 15th December. But let's make it an unpaid leave.

Surely that won't be a disaster for anybody???
 
Paulsie said:
That's called an employment contract. You work abc hours for xyz remuneration.

More often than you may think.

But here's a thought. Let's all celebrate Springbok victory in 15th December. But let's make it an unpaid leave.

Surely that won't be a disaster for anybody???
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If someone is NOT sick for 30 days, you got 30 days free labour. And no, not more often, soemtimes one or two sick for a day or two, never everyone sick for the entire allocated sick leave.

If it's unpaid, it's not a public holiday. Wow.

I had a colleague that was sick for 15 days due to a heart attach. My employer was concerned about his resource's wellbeing. Can you imagine that?
 
All in all, it sounds very dire. You'll probably have to shut down, sell everything to survive, etc etc. Or make less money than you thought you did. Tough call.
 
Bliksis said:
If someone is NOT sick for 30 days, you got 30 days free labour.
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No buddy, I have 30 days paid working labour. As intended when I created the job for someone.

I just hope that you have a gardener and a domestic at home, while providing them with their full entitlements.

But it is usually righteous people like you who are the first to implement no work no pay for their domestics.
 
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