Ramaphosa on Load Shedding and E-tolls

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I thought Zuma was the king of talking rubbish after his "South African's don't deserve corruption" speech. Seems Ramaphosa is trying to compete with him. Snippets below

On Load Shedding

He said many countries around the world were facing an energy crisis, including the USA.

"The good thing with us is we are not sitting on our backsides. We are addressing the problem.

..."[However] we must dispel the myth that people who run parastatals are ill-equipped to do so. Many of them are good professionals and they need to be supported and assisted in their work."

On Etolls

He also told MPs that the government has to take unpopular decisions sometimes in the interest of its people. He was adamant, however, that ordinary South Africans supported the new e-toll system which saw tariffs reduced by 50% in some cases.

“As we speak now, the tolling system is receiving thousands of calls from ordinary motorists, who are saying ‘we want to know how to access the benefits that you announced’,” he told the National Assembly.

Anybody believe this guy? Seems he is just the next Zuma

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/We-cant-run-away-from-the-power-crisis-Ramaphosa-20150610
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/E-tolling-gets-support-from-South-Africans-Ramaphosa-20150610

 

[Fazda]

As far as I am concerned, it apears as if he has slipped into Mac Maharj's shoes and become the new spin doctor.

He is suddenly talking total and utter bollocks at every turn!

I actually used to have a tiny little bit of respect for him until this!

 

[Beachless]

I think they are in big shyte and have to start lying to try and get out of it. Expect more and more crazy laws and total untruths to try and cover for the mess they made.

 

[Kornhub]

The good thing with us is we are not sitting on our backsides. We are addressing the problem

Oh when shyt eventually hit the fan ?

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Fun and games as usual.

Still won't pay for etoll.

 

[Sherbang]

I thought Zuma was the king of talking rubbish after his "South African's don't deserve corruption" speech. Seems Ramaphosa is trying to compete with him. Snippets below

On Load Shedding


On Etolls


Anybody believe this guy? Seems he is just the next Zuma

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/We-cant-run-away-from-the-power-crisis-Ramaphosa-20150610
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/E-tolling-gets-support-from-South-Africans-Ramaphosa-20150610

Don't know about the etolls spin but he is definitely correct about load shedding - many countries around the world are facing an energy crisis and many are not dealing with it at all. I believe that in the long run, load shedding is good because it's forcing SA to deal with an energy crises and that load shedding will become a feature of many other countries in the future, when we'll have dealt with it here.

 

[ellyally]

As we speak now, the tolling system is receiving thousands of calls from ordinary motorists, who are saying ‘we want to know how to access the benefits that you announced’

Watched him spouting all this garbage and ANC cheering him on... He also said the road weren't privatised and its government, yet when asked about the roll outs to KZN and CTN, he said something along the lines of sanral is in charge of it and they(he/anc) know nothing, sanral needs to generate revenue and raise funds. So, to me, it seems sanral is doing its own thing(i.e. privatised), or, ANC is covering their own backsides for when the voting comes. Also, apparently there is no sitting in traffic on highways and the CoJ panel/investigation showed savings on car maintenance and petrol etc by paying e-tolls. Also poor aren't affected (still wondering how this works out as the price of goods and services is passed on to customers).

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Watched him spouting all this garbage and ANC cheering him on... He also said the road weren't privatised and its government, yet when asked about the roll outs to KZN and CTN, he said something along the lines of sanral is in charge of it and they(he/anc) know nothing, sanral needs to generate revenue and raise funds. So, to me, it seems sanral is doing its own thing(i.e. privatised), or, ANC is covering their own backsides for when the voting comes. Also, apparently there is no sitting in traffic on highways and the CoJ panel/investigation showed savings on car maintenance and petrol etc by paying e-tolls. Also poor aren't affected (still wondering how this works out as the price of goods and services is passed on to customers).

They be living on a different planet.

 

[grok]

I believe that in the long run, load shedding is good because it's forcing SA to deal with an energy crises and that load shedding will become a feature of many other countries in the future, when we'll have dealt with it here.

That's a bit like saying it's actually good you got shot because at least you learned how to deal with a bullet in the chest :erm:

Ramaphosa said it was a responsibility of the government to make sure that it acted in the interests of all people

Explain to us then how spending R240mil of taxpayer money on Zuma's private residence is in the interests of all people?

If we accept that the user-pay principle

We don't. Your president certainly doesn't. Soweto electricity payment dodgers also don't.

User pays is a red herring in the same vein as calling a million rand swimming pool complex a firepool.

If taxes are based on the user pays principle then rural people with dirt roads should tar the roads in their own neigborhood.

We can't run away from the power crisis - Ramaphosa

Yeah, because you are the ones who created it.

 

[Sonic2k]

That's a bit like saying it's actually good you got shot because at least you learned how to deal with a bullet in the chest :erm:



Explain to us then how spending R240mil of taxpayer money on Zuma's private residence is in the interests of all people?



We don't. Your president certainly doesn't. Soweto electricity payment dodgers also don't.

User pays is a red herring in the same vein as calling a million rand swimming pool complex a firepool.

If taxes are based on the user pays principle then rural people with dirt roads should tar the roads in their own neigborhood.



Yeah, because you are the ones who created it.

Well put
+10

 

[Sinbad]

If it's to be user pays, where do I get my tax refund for the portion allocated to education, health care and policing?

 

[Sherbang]

That's a bit like saying it's actually good you got shot because at least you learned how to deal with a bullet in the chest :erm:

:wtf: I'd hardly say load shedding is equivalent to a bullet in the chest. lol
What I meant is that it forces politicians to confront the lack of energy infrastructure investment, which they have ignored for so long, not only here but in many countries around the world. We're being forced to deal with it now, while politicians in other countries around the world are continuing to ignore the problem and will have to deal with it later.
Sometimes, unfortunately, politicians (and people in general) only act when there is a crisis, and do what needs to be done effectively because of a crisis, when there is no crisis people just carry on with blinders in place.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

A sprinkling of this wonderful spice yet again ...

 

[spiff]

don't care what they say or how the spin it - not paying etolls - not here in CPT or JHB or KZN - period!!

and I will continue to reduce my dependency on eskum!

fork the cANCer!!

 

[Shi]

Politics

 

[Sonic2k]

I'd hardly say load shedding is equivalent to a bullet in the chest. lol

It is definitely a bullet to the chest of any small/micro enterprise

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

It is definitely a bullet to the chest of any small/micro enterprise

Its a bullet to a medium sized company too ..... Does Cyril Ram a poser HONESTLY believe I had planned to fork out R1m + for generators just because .....

Fekking clown.

 

[richjdavies]

Just to weigh in:

"other countries are experiencing power crises"

No they aren't. They are using forward looking fore-thought to plan for potential future situations where they need to think more about balancing renewables supply. The USA does NOT have rolling black-outs. It does have people talking about a 'crisis' but their crisis is not the same as SA's crisis.
The USA - like saying you don't exercise regularly so you're facing a "health crisis"
SA - on a ventilator, after suffering a serious heart attack, weighing 200kgs and with diabetes... "health crisis"
Saying -- oh look the US has a health crisis too, doesn't fix anything!

 

[mak2000]

Ramaphosa making his move to become the next President. He has to support the official excuses.

 

[grok]

:wtf: I'd hardly say load shedding is equivalent to a bullet in the chest. lol
What I meant is that it forces politicians to confront the lack of energy infrastructure investment, which they have ignored for so long, not only here but in many countries around the world. We're being forced to deal with it now, while politicians in other countries around the world are continuing to ignore the problem and will have to deal with it later.
Sometimes, unfortunately, politicians (and people in general) only act when there is a crisis, and do what needs to be done effectively because of a crisis, when there is no crisis people just carry on with blinders in place.

Yeah this is an old post but just maybe if those same politicians didn't have to micromanage the energy crysis they themselves caused, they'd have time to deal with the important issues like unemployment, healthcare & running the country. You know the stuff we actually pay them to do.