Ramaphosa on stage 4 load shedding: ‘The calamity of all calamities’

ShaunSA

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Anyways he's only stressed cos his k@k party took a knock at the polls so his arse is on the line

Hopefully they boot him to the kerb
 

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Anyways he's only stressed cos his k@k party took a knock at the polls so his arse is on the line

Hopefully they boot him to the kerb
Hopefully we could boot the whole mess to the side, but sadly that won't happen. Also the deputy who would take over is worse.
 

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Hopefully we could boot the whole mess to the side, but sadly that won't happen. Also the deputy who would take over is worse.

I prefer a pos that it's not pretending to be anything else but a pos.
 

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Bit rich from the man who was on the task team to fix Eskom while deputy President
 

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The president of nothing, has done nothing, says nothing and is nothing. Shall go down as the worst of the worst. The bringer of the new yawn, the downfall of SA.

In all honesty, he definitely won't go down as the worst of the worst, that title is reserved for Jacob.

I also do in some ways feel for Cyril, he has a mammoth task on his hands to try balance the politics and the country and try to keep the RETards out of the prime position... I do definitely think he could do more and be more forceful, but we are not even vaguely aware of the power struggles in the background.
 

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In all honesty, he definitely won't go down as the worst of the worst, that title is reserved for Jacob.

I also do in some ways feel for Cyril, he has a mammoth task on his hands to try balance the politics and the country and try to keep the RETards out of the prime position... I do definitely think he could do more and be more forceful, but we are not even vaguely aware of the power struggles in the background.
Maybe because there is no power struggle in the background?

Cyril is first and foremost an ANC cadre, and as such stands 100% in line with the rest of the cadres when it comes to party before state and enriching themselves at the expense of the state.
 

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Maybe because there is no power struggle in the background?

Cyril is first and foremost an ANC cadre, and as such stands 100% in line with the rest of the cadres when it comes to party before state and enriching themselves at the expense of the state.

I think that is the public face of things really, and for the middle class and educated people its a hugely damning public face, but less damning than the reality.

In the background there are ridiculous power struggles going on and if the public was even aware of 10% of them the ANC would be in serious serious trouble with the electorate (even the "voting fodder" portion of the electorate).
The ANC is basically a loose grouping of criminals for all intents and purposes now, and none of those criminals are pulling in the same direction anymore. They're all in it for the immediate gain for themselves.
 

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Maybe because there is no power struggle in the background?

Cyril is first and foremost an ANC cadre, and as such stands 100% in line with the rest of the cadres when it comes to party before state and enriching themselves at the expense of the state.
We should not forget that despite ramaposer being president of anc, the person running the show is Uncle Gweezy , he is the man behind all decisions for the party, its been like that for a while & somehow alot of us do not get this
 

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We should not forget that despite ramaposer being president of anc, the person running the show is Uncle Gweezy , he is the man behind all decisions for the party, its been like that for a while & somehow alot of us do not get this

How do you figure he is the man running the show?

I'm mostly just interested in the process you get to that conclusion.
 

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Maybe because there is no power struggle in the background?

Cyril is first and foremost an ANC cadre, and as such stands 100% in line with the rest of the cadres when it comes to party before state and enriching themselves at the expense of the state.

Lots of evidence of internal power struggles happening at various levels of the party/government. You have the zupta brigade at the top side making all their noise for ret (making such noise wasn't a thing during the zupta years), and then you have more direct low level confrontations like kzn political murders.
 

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They're all in it for the immediate gain for themselves.
10000% this, and why I'm so happy they got such a terrible election result,
more people vote NO to the ANC, and actually use their votes constructively the better.
 

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Lots of evidence of internal power struggles happening at various levels of the party/government. You have the zupta brigade at the top side making all their noise for ret (making such noise wasn't a thing during the zupta years), and then you have more direct low level confrontations like kzn political murders.
But then everyone blames the previous regime for saying hell no who want to be part of such a sheiteshow?
 

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I'm mostly just interested in the process you get to that conclusion.
you said so yourself, how the ANC power struggles in the background are insane,
maybe we dont know the half of it, and its even worse than that, and all the ANC top 6 do their own thing and dont care what others say or do.

so gweezy might be pulling the strings he can, while others pull their strings separately.
 

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you said so yourself, how the ANC power struggles in the background are insane,
maybe we dont know the half of it, and its even worse than that, and all the ANC top 6 do their own thing and dont care what others say or do.

so gweezy might be pulling the strings he can, while others pull their strings separately.

But that wouldn't make Uncle Gweezy "in charge", it would just make him another fscktard out for his own back pocket (which we already know he is)
 
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